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OpenAI and Nvidia announce partnership to deploy 10GW of Nvidia systems

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Re: OpenAI and Nvidia announce partnership to deploy 10GW of Nvidia systems

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We are way past peak LLM and it shows. They are basically advertise spacing heating as if it's some sort of advancement, while the tech seems to have stagnated, and they re just making the horses faster. The market should have punished this

>We are way past peak LLM and it shows

The dot com bubble saw crazy deals and valuations, followed by a crash.

some companies emerged from it and went on to be a giant company like Amazon. Let's hope this AI boom have some similar outcomes.

Re: OpenAI and Nvidia announce partnership to deploy 10GW of Nvidia systems

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He single-handedly cost people more than anyone with his bearish takes lol

Its not a good argument against him. I read his articles and he is absolutely correct about the state of things. Predicting the crash is a fools errand. I don't use that as a argument to discredit what he actually writes regarding the raw economics of the AI industry. I say this as someone who has been holding NVDA stock since 2016 and can cash out for a large sum of money. To me its all theoretical money until I act…

He’s been absolutely wrong on most things but spreading FUD is how he makes money, like Gary Marcus

Re: OpenAI and Nvidia announce partnership to deploy 10GW of Nvidia systems

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Framing it in gigawatts is very interesting given the controversy about skyrocketing electric prices for residential and small business users as a result of datacenters over the past three years, primarily driven by AI growth. If, as another commenter notes, this 10GW is how much Chicago and NYC use combined , then we need to have a serious discussion about where this power is going to come from given the dismal stat…

Watt is the hottest new currency in big tech. Want to launch something big? You don't have to ask for dollars or headcount or servers or whatever else used to be the bottleneck in the past. There's plenty of all this to go around (and if not it can be easily bought). Success or failure now depends on whether you can beg and plead your way to getting a large enough kilowatt/megawatt allocation over every other team th…

Explains why Meta is entering power trading space

https://subscriber.politicopro.com/article/eenews/2025/09/22...

Re: OpenAI and Nvidia announce partnership to deploy 10GW of Nvidia systems

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onlyrealcuzzo wrote: > Google is pretty useful. It uses 15 TWh per year. 15TWh per year is about 1.7GW. Assuming the above figures, that means OpenAI and Nvidia new plan will consume about 5.8 Googles worth of power, by itself. At that scale, there's a huge opportunity for ultra-low-power AI compute chips (compared with current GPUs), and right now there are several very promising technology pathways to it.

This one datacenter should be able to perform a 51% attack on any of the big cryptocurrencies with that much compute. An interesting hedge in case the AI bubble pops.

You're downvoted but it's a real threat. Imagine hackers or state sponsored entities use one of these mega data centers to destroy a few cryptocurrencies.

Re: OpenAI and Nvidia announce partnership to deploy 10GW of Nvidia systems

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> As in, there are lots and lots of investment funds/pension funds/other such like financial entities which are very heavily tied to the "performance" of equity, and I'm talking about trillions (at this point) of dollars, and if that equity were to get a, let's say, 20 or 30% hair-cut in a matter of two-three months (at most), then we'll for sure be back in October 2008 mode. Just curious, can you detail how it would…

Anytime there's a massive draw down equities an asset-liability mismatch shows up (margin calls) because someone was borrowing money to spend in the short term against the value of assets that have now disappeared. It might not be the catastrophic cascading failure of the GFC, but someone somewhere in the pile will get exposed.

Ah yes I see. It's the idea that somewhere, somehow, there is debt that's funding all of this, even if it's very indirect.

Re: OpenAI and Nvidia announce partnership to deploy 10GW of Nvidia systems

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Its not a good argument against him. I read his articles and he is absolutely correct about the state of things. Predicting the crash is a fools errand. I don't use that as a argument to discredit what he actually writes regarding the raw economics of the AI industry. I say this as someone who has been holding NVDA stock since 2016 and can cash out for a large sum of money. To me its all theoretical money until I act…

He’s been absolutely wrong on most things but spreading FUD is how he makes money, like Gary Marcus

I don't care for personalities. You want to mark him as a grifter but is that just an emotional response? I have not bought anything from Ed, I don't subscribe to his newsletter, I don't know much about him beyond visiting his website every few weeks and reading the free articles. He does not sell me vitality pills or coffee mugs. The only soliciting he does is his paid sub stack.

But it goes both ways? Because AI promoters are also spreading FUD. That's how they make money. Because their livelihoods are tied to this technology and all the valuations. So is spreading FUD for you just a condition on whether or not you agree with the person?

Re: OpenAI and Nvidia announce partnership to deploy 10GW of Nvidia systems

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onlyrealcuzzo wrote: > Google is pretty useful. It uses 15 TWh per year. 15TWh per year is about 1.7GW. Assuming the above figures, that means OpenAI and Nvidia new plan will consume about 5.8 Googles worth of power, by itself. At that scale, there's a huge opportunity for ultra-low-power AI compute chips (compared with current GPUs), and right now there are several very promising technology pathways to it.

This one datacenter should be able to perform a 51% attack on any of the big cryptocurrencies with that much compute. An interesting hedge in case the AI bubble pops.

Nope, anything besides ASICs are useless for crypto mining.

Re: OpenAI and Nvidia announce partnership to deploy 10GW of Nvidia systems

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I work in the datacenter space. The power consumption of a data center is the "canonical" way to describe their size. Almost every component in a datacenter is upgradeable—in fact, the compute itself only has a lifespan of ~5 years—but the power requirements are basically locked-in. A 200MW data center will always be a 200MW data center, even though the flops it computes will increase. The fact that we use this unit…

All life is basically refining energy - standing up to entropy and temporarily winning the fight.

It's all about putting the entropy somewhere else and keeping your own little area organised.

Re: OpenAI and Nvidia announce partnership to deploy 10GW of Nvidia systems

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Framing it in gigawatts is very interesting given the controversy about skyrocketing electric prices for residential and small business users as a result of datacenters over the past three years, primarily driven by AI growth. If, as another commenter notes, this 10GW is how much Chicago and NYC use combined , then we need to have a serious discussion about where this power is going to come from given the dismal stat…

Datacenters need to provide their own power/storage, and connect to the grid just to trade excess energy or provide grid stability. Given the 5-7 year backlog of photovoltaic projects waiting for interconnect, the grid is kind of a dinosaur that needs to be routed around

Re: OpenAI and Nvidia announce partnership to deploy 10GW of Nvidia systems

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Almost every model trained by the majors has paid for itself with inference fees. I’m not saying there isn’t a bubble, but I am saying if the researchers and strategists absolutely closest to the “metal” of realtime frontier models are correct that AGI is in reach, then this isn’t a bubble, it’s a highly rational race. One that large players seem to be winning right now.

> Almost every model trained by the majors has paid for itself with inference fees. Even if we assume this is true, the downstream customers paying for that inference also need it to pay for itself on average in order for the upstream model training to be sustainable, otherwise the demand for inference will dry up when the music stops. There won't always be a parade of over-funded AI startups burning $10 worth of tok…

Isn't most of OpenAI revenue from end users and not revenue from token sales? For Anthropic, it is the opposite where almost all of their revenue comes from API usage. So even if AGI/ASI don't pan out, OpenAI will have a great consumer-focused inference business where they build useful applications (and new devices) using existing state-of-the-art LLMs and stop investing heavily in the next gen model training? I think potentially just replacing Google Search and smartphones with a new AI device would be massive consumer businesses that OpenAI could potentially go after without any major advancements in AI research.
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