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Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

anigbrowl wrote: post #431
bamboozled wrote: post #291

Why is it “Trump” specifically ? Is there no government anymore ?

Because he's exerting autocratic control over the entire executive branch. How many times does he have to tell you he's doing so before you can recognize it? He talks about it in interviews and on his social media, and not in vague or nuanced terms, but with clear declarative statements like "I have the right to do anything I want to do. I'm the President." (this example from about 3 weeks ago - https://www.youtube.c…

>Because he's exerting autocratic control over the entire executive branch.

.... As the... head of the executive branch?

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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duped wrote: post #213
frogblast wrote: post #80

IMO the problem is that H1B employees are stuck at the employer for the duration of their green card process, and so end up both paid lower and unable to escape abuse. I think a very high application fee is actually part of a good solution, but is useless by itself. A flawed proposal: * Dispense with the 'need to search for a qualified American' which just complicates the process without achieving the stated goal, an…

I mean I'll admit I'm a bit of a radical on this issue, but I think the most sensible work authorization policy is "you're welcome if you're not a criminal, terrorist, or public health risk, and on that last point here's some penicillin and a flu/covid shot, let us know when you're feeling better" My ancestors came here ~140 years ago when the only "visa" process was a look in the mouth at Ellis Island. I don't see a…

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Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by spacebanana7 »

callc wrote: post #440
guyzero wrote: post #248

Everyone in these threads always points out all sorts of issues with the H1B system, which are mostly true, but it's not like there's a suggestion for a replacement here. This is a de facto shutdown of the program, not a reform. I'd be happy to see a reformed skilled immigration program for the US, but this isn't it. The US makes up about 4.5% of the global population and it seems silly to think that the FAANG compan…

> The only effect this is going to have is accelerating the offshoring of jobs through more hiring in India, Europe and Canada, which is a net loss for the US. I’m honestly tired of hearing the argument “if we do X then business will move to another state or out of US”. Good riddance to the companies that flee from jurisdictions enforcing workers rights, don’t allow exploitation, etc. The most important thing is prot…

Particularly in tech, where the network effects and first mover advantages are so strong.

California could introduce a million dollar minimum wage for software engineers, ban electricity on Thursdays, raise corporate taxes to 60% and still probably have more new unicorns founded in the subsequent year than Europe.

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by jghn »

roughly wrote: post #85

I think there’s plenty of interesting debates to be had about immigration policy and its effects on the labor market, but one thing worth noting here is that the primary problem that damn near every other country on earth has isn’t immigration, it’s brain drain. A core strategic strength of the US over the last century has been that everyone with any talent wants to come here to work, and by and large we’ve let them…

Don't worry. The actual text declares that DHS has the discretion to give exceptions to companies. [1] I'm sure this does not at all imply that what this policy really means is that companies who bend the knee won't see this extra charge.

[1] https://bsky.app/profile/josephpolitano.bsky.social/post/3lz...

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by l___l »

danielfoster wrote: post #121
frogblast wrote: post #80

IMO the problem is that H1B employees are stuck at the employer for the duration of their green card process, and so end up both paid lower and unable to escape abuse. I think a very high application fee is actually part of a good solution, but is useless by itself. A flawed proposal: * Dispense with the 'need to search for a qualified American' which just complicates the process without achieving the stated goal, an…

The last bullet is a good idea but wouldn’t work in practice. Otherwise a company could hire someone else’s H1B worker for $10k more per year and avoid the $100k fee.

Maybe a company that hires someone else's H1B worker for $10k more per year in the first year has to pay the $100k fee and the first company gets their fee back.

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

y-curious wrote: post #293
b_e_n_t_o_n wrote: post #32

> H-1B visas are already costly to obtain, ranging from about $1,700 to $4,500 oof, that's a big price increase.

My one concern is that the salary discrepancy minus the $100k might still be worth it for FAANG specifically.

That's the point. If you really deserve it with your skills, then 100k is nothing.

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by apwell23 »

dilyevsky wrote: post #335
tolmasky wrote: post #125

Perfect number to make H1Bs a tool that is out of reach for startups but still meaningful for large entrenched corporations. Nailed it. Maybe they can even waive the fee if you give the US government 10% of your company.

University hiring is basically rekt. Throwing out baby with the bath water per usual with this admin...

lots of immigrant kids are in uni now. all my cousins are doing cs now. look at latest batch of yc founders.

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by ferrouswheel »

roughly wrote: post #85

I think there’s plenty of interesting debates to be had about immigration policy and its effects on the labor market, but one thing worth noting here is that the primary problem that damn near every other country on earth has isn’t immigration, it’s brain drain. A core strategic strength of the US over the last century has been that everyone with any talent wants to come here to work, and by and large we’ve let them…

Maybe talent in third world countries. I think it's mostly mid-tier people from first world countries.

People with actually talent and intelligence realise how messed up the USA is (and has been for some time) and prefer things like healthcare and gun control.

And if they really want the lack of work life balance and/or high paid roles, they can consult from US company like I do. Now I get the money, but I live in a decent country.

I don't think there is any amount of money you could offer me to move to the USA. Well ok, maybe when it gets to $10 million / year I would have to start considering it.

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