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Re: Linux phones are more important now than ever

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I'm a very happy Sailfish OS user, since 2016, before that Meego, Maemo (Nokia N900, N9). I do have an android phone for one App (Deutsche Post) which I use only when I need to ship stuff. Running on a Gigaset (made in Germany, 4KmA battery) I generally get two days of usage, 1 day if I'm stuck on Mastodon. From being able to do SDL2 stuff (Godot 3.5 for instance) with a wayland compositor to just not having f'ked UI…

> Sailfish OS

On what hardware? Jolla C2?

Re: Linux phones are more important now than ever

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post #391

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> prevents me from taking screenshots if an app author doesn't want me to The most frustrating part about this "feature" is that you don't know it's enabled until the screenshot is taken and you're left with a picture of nothing. That and some app authors thinking they're protecting you with this (referring to banking apps in particular)

It is not for preventing you from taking screenshots, if you insist, you can do it with another camera. It is to prevent malware and "helpful" AI tools from doing it for you and then uploading the picture to who knows where. Signal does this too, though I think it is optional. Beyond preventing screenshots, it blacks out the window content in the task switcher, which is useful if someone is looking over your shoulder…

Then ask for my fingerprint after screenshot is made.

Re: Linux phones are more important now than ever

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> prevents me from taking screenshots if an app author doesn't want me to The most frustrating part about this "feature" is that you don't know it's enabled until the screenshot is taken and you're left with a picture of nothing. That and some app authors thinking they're protecting you with this (referring to banking apps in particular)

I want to send my new IBAN to my company, I can, no screenshot allowed on the screen with banking information. So I need to log on their website to do it. At least my new bank allows such screenshot and to copy account information directly from the app.

I have checked all my mobile banking apps (3 czech, 1 slovak, 1 lithuanian bank) and all of them can copy my IBAN.

Re: Linux phones are more important now than ever

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As someone willing to put up with all manner of nonsense (overpriced/underpowered hardware, clunky UI, endless troubleshooting), battery life on mobile Linux devices alone prevents me from using them in the real world. Is there a single Linux phone/tablet that can last an 8 hour day of actual use? Librem/Pinephone/Juno can't. My uConsole can't. Different category, but my MNT mini laptop lasts like 4 hours and can't b…

>Is there a single Linux phone/tablet that can last an 8 hour day of actual use? What's "actual use"? Furi FLX1 has the best battery life I've seen on a Linux phone. Idling, it last 3+ days. I'm sure it could survive 1 whole day of "actual use". I also think almost any (official) SailfishOS device would last a day of actual use.

Why isn't there more information about Furi FLX1 in the internet? Looks like a nice phone.

Re: Linux phones are more important now than ever

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post #439

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What are you talking about? The telephony part has been solved in Librem 5 and Pinephone. Also, this question has already been asked here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45257448

Looking at postmarketOS devices page only 20 community supported devices have "Calls" listed as "fully implemented". Clearly this is the main hurdle for true "Linux Phone". And those devices are a bit old, ranging from 2014 to 2020, and that makes them harder to obtain, also battery might be in need of replacing. And Pinephone is currently out of stock. Cannot comment about Librem 5, but its price is quite high. So,…

> only 20 community supported devices

You realize it's a result of reverse-engineering done by volunteers? To me it looks like a large number actually. The main hurdle for true "Linux Phone" is the lack of free drivers and specs, such that volunteers must spend tremendous efforts to make basic things work.

> which Linux phone should I buy and how could I contribute to its success?

To help Linux ecosystem on mobile, you could support vendors who intentionally provide free drivers or specs and help improve the software running on their devices. AFAIK only Pinephone and Librem 5 fit here. The former is in stock from time to time.

Also many users of GNU/Linux phones run Phosh developed by Purism. Helping to improve it would help the whole community.

Re: Linux phones are more important now than ever

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post #319

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In reality what happened is that some security auditor put it into a checklist for the mobile app "Security ISO certificate++" and now everyone implements it for compliance. Fighting against that is insane paperwork and professional exposure for software engineers that do it (since if people get phished, the C-suite will point a finger at a tech lead which went against the "professional security audit"). Most of othe…

So let's have more of these conversations so the idiots making those standards make fewer dumb rules and we can grease the wheels for anyone passionate enough to try to get it changed

Unfortunately the idiots are often the nation's security agency, or a large consulting company.

You will not have them change their policies if they do not have a good person inside, who will slowly move the boat.

I fought for audit findings because they were pissing me off at a personal level and it wirked. But the auditor did not change their procedure, just reverted the finding. Until the next year.

Re: Linux phones are more important now than ever

#457

My Android phone prevents me from taking screenshots if an app author doesn't want me to. My Android phone prevents me from recording phone calls at the request of my carrier, even though it's totally legal for me to do so in my jurisdiction. I'm not loving where this is all going.

This reminds me of a story of my bank that at some point told me to send them a screenshot.

I told them that their app prevents this. To their surprise.

I told them that I would use the web site and they were happy that there is a workaround for their own limitation.

I had other wild stories with this otherwise good bank.

Re: Linux phones are more important now than ever

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post #203
post #25

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the app for one of my banks which i need for 2FA won't run on my /e/OS phone.

Get Droidify; there are wrappers and root tools to override these checks.

can you be more specific please? droidify appears to just be an f-droid client. i already have f-droid. in fact, it's my primary source for apps. but i can't find any apps that match your description.

Re: Linux phones are more important now than ever

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My Android phone prevents me from taking screenshots if an app author doesn't want me to. My Android phone prevents me from recording phone calls at the request of my carrier, even though it's totally legal for me to do so in my jurisdiction. I'm not loving where this is all going.

Only your carrier is supposed to record the calls. Edit: apparently the /s is obligatory on this one

iphone now allows phone call recording.

I don't know if it is geolocked somehow, I wouldn't be surprised if it was. for example, Japanese iphones always make a shutter sound in japan or in airplane mode

There is a waveform thing in the corner you can press during a call. It will say "this call is being recorded" and waits 5 seconds, then records the call.

strangely... the recording doesn't end up in voice memos, it ends up in notes.

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