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Re: Gemini 2.5 Flash Image

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It's not in the Gemini app or site at all. You have to use AI Studio or another means. Yes, this is all very confusing on Google's part.

Hmm could the old models generate images before? Had they hooked up imagen or something? I can make images on the Gemini site.

Yes, there was gemini-2.0-flash-preview-image-generation before, which could generate and edit also. But weaker than the new one.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Flash Image

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I've been testing it for several weeks. It can produce results that are truly epic, but it's still a case of rerolling the prompt a dozen times to get an image you can use. It's not God. It's definitely an enormous step though, and totally SOTA.

If you compare to the amount of effort required in Photoshop to achieve the same results, still a vast improvement

Why would you compare it to Photoshop? If you compare it to other tools in the same category, of image generation, you will find models like Flux and Qwen do much better.

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If you compare to the amount of effort required in Photoshop to achieve the same results, still a vast improvement

I work in Photoshop all day, and I 100% agree. Also, I just retried a task that wouldn't work last night on nano-banana and it worked first time on the released model, so I'm wondering if there were some changes to the released version?

How many times did you tried? I uploaded a black and white photo and let it colourize, something like 20 percent were still black and white.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Flash Image

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I work in Photoshop all day, and I 100% agree. Also, I just retried a task that wouldn't work last night on nano-banana and it worked first time on the released model, so I'm wondering if there were some changes to the released version?

We had an exhibition some time back where I used AI to generate the posters for our product. This is a side project and not something we do seriously, but the results were outstanding - better than what the majority of much bigger exhibitors had. It took me a LOT of time to get things right, but if I was to get an actual studio to make those images, it would have cost me a thousands of dollars

Yeah, played around with it, it created an amazing poster for starfinder ttrpg ( something like DND) with specifies who looked really! Good. Usually stuff likes this fails hard, since there isn't much training data of unique fantasy creatures.

But flash 2.5? Worked! It did it, crazy stuff

Re: Gemini 2.5 Flash Image

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I've updated the GenAI Image comparison site (which focuses heavily on strict text-to-image prompt adherence) to reflect the new Google Gemini 2.5 Flash model (aka nano-banana). https://genai-showdown.specr.net This model gets 8 of the 12 prompts correct and easily comes within striking distance of the best-in-class models Imagen and gpt-image-1 and is a significant upgrade over the old Gemini Flash 2.0 model. The re…

What's interesting is that Imagen 4 and Gemini 2.5 Flash Image look suspiciously similar in several of these tests cases. Maybe Gemini 2.5 Flash first calls Imagen in the background to get a detailed baseline image (diffusion models are good at this) and then Gemini edits the resulting image for better prompt adherence.

Yes, saw on a reddit about an employee confirming this is the case (at least on Gemini app) where the request for an image from scratch is routed to imagen and the follow-up edits are done using Gemini.

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Vibe coding might not be real, but vibe graphics design certainly is. https://imgur.com/a/internet-DWzJ26B Anyone can make images and video now.

Sure, now the client wants 130 edits without losing coherency with the original. What does a vibe designer do? Just keep re-prompting and re-generating until it works? Sounds hard to me.

They use Kontext, Qwen-Edit or Gemini.

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This is the gpt 4 moment for image editing models. Nano banana aka gemini 2.5 flash is insanely good. It made a 171 elo point jump in lmarena! Just search nano banana on Twitter to see the crazy results. An example. https://x.com/D_studioproject/status/1958019251178267111

Before AI, people complained that Google was taking world class engineering talent and using it for little more than selling people ads. But look at that example. With this new frontier of AI, that world class engineering talent can finally be put to use…for product placement. We’ve come so far.

Oh come on - you have this incredible technology at your disposal and all you can think to use it for is product placement?

Re: Gemini 2.5 Flash Image

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This is the gpt 4 moment for image editing models. Nano banana aka gemini 2.5 flash is insanely good. It made a 171 elo point jump in lmarena! Just search nano banana on Twitter to see the crazy results. An example. https://x.com/D_studioproject/status/1958019251178267111

> An example. https://x.com/D_studioproject/status/1958019251178267111

“Nano banana” is probably good, given its score on the leaderboard, but the examples you show don't seem particularly impressive, it looks like what Flux Kontext or Qwen Image do well already.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Flash Image

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Hmm could the old models generate images before? Had they hooked up imagen or something? I can make images on the Gemini site.

Yes, there was gemini-2.0-flash-preview-image-generation before, which could generate and edit also. But weaker than the new one.

Thanks, I'd not realised that, which means I have no idea if the things I've done outside of the API are this new one or not. That does feel classic google.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Flash Image

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But these new amazing AI image generators lets you just say "It wasn't me, it is an AI fake". Long term they will seriously devalue blackmail material. I read a scifi novel where they invented a wormhole that only light could pass through but it could be used as a camera that could go anywhere and eventually anytime and there was absolutely no way to block it. So some people adapted to this fact by not wearing clothe…

> So some people adapted to this fact by not wearing clothes anymore. Erm... What?

Because anyone could use the wormhole camera to see anyone naked. It made modesty effectively impossible.
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