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Re: Temporary suspension of acceptance of mail to the United States

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Post by donkeybeer »

ericmay wrote: post #450
donkeybeer wrote: post #443

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am glad we finally admitted its not about this or that labor or other nonsense but about being a sore loser. And you seem to be forgetting I am equally in opposition of tariffs and consider it fucking shit when China or anyone else does it. Be sore losers, nobody is stopping you, I just truly and earnestly hope for the sake of your country that I am wrong.

You claimed we were sore losers. I don’t care what you call us. We are fine with our tariffs and being whatever names you want to call us. It’s funny how mad everyone seems to be. Oh you’re just sore losers. Oh this isn’t going to work. Blah blah blah and on and on and on and all the kicking and screaming about it just tells me that your protests are an admission that it’s a good idea. > And you seem to be forgetting…

I am calling you sore losers because I have seen not just studied a theory what happens when you tariff all over, I don't want to see America slide down. If I wanted to hurt your country I'd go full bore encouraging even more random high tariffs all over the board.

I am also calling you sore losers because its, objectively minus any value judgments, a truth. Tariffs on a sector mean you are a loser in that sector. Not a big deal when said country never claimed to be a proponent of free trade before. But when its a country that ruins the board whose rules themselves setup, then yes? Idk what else to call them.

Re: Temporary suspension of acceptance of mail to the United States

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Post by ericmay »

donkeybeer wrote: post #449
ericmay wrote: post #448

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ll take that as a retraction of your moral superiority nonsense.

Why haven't you stopped beating your wife? I take that as you admitting you are a complete liar who puts words into others mouths and unable to answer not just one but several very easy questions.

You are more than welcome to go back and re-read your post and my response until you understand the point. Until you do that I’m quite satisfied to leave the discussion right where I left it.

Re: Temporary suspension of acceptance of mail to the United States

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Post by ericmay »

donkeybeer wrote: post #451
ericmay wrote: post #450

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You claimed we were sore losers. I don’t care what you call us. We are fine with our tariffs and being whatever names you want to call us. It’s funny how mad everyone seems to be. Oh you’re just sore losers. Oh this isn’t going to work. Blah blah blah and on and on and on and all the kicking and screaming about it just tells me that your protests are an admission that it’s a good idea. > And you seem to be forgetting…

I am calling you sore losers because I have seen not just studied a theory what happens when you tariff all over, I don't want to see America slide down. If I wanted to hurt your country I'd go full bore encouraging even more random high tariffs all over the board. I am also calling you sore losers because its, objectively minus any value judgments, a truth. Tariffs on a sector mean you are a loser in that sector. No…

Well we are just joining the rest of the world in the sore losers club so that’s no big deal.

Re: Temporary suspension of acceptance of mail to the United States

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Post by 31carmichael »

lucky_cloud wrote: post #225
timr wrote: post #45

Title is not accurate. They're allowing personal shipments under $100, and the rest can be shipped via their UGX service. It sounds like JP doesn't want to deal with the customs paperwork at scale (edit: also the deposits).

Under $100... by what measure? I'm going to Japan soon and was planning on shipping a bunch of clothes, books, etc to myself. I'm not going to sell any of it, I just want to send a bunch of stuff back without having to deal with checking another bag. So as far as I'm concerned, there's no dollar value. I'm buying stuff in Yen for my own personal use... But I suppose I'll just check a bag or use a different carrier...

I tried to mail myself some personal items from Japan once. It was a pain in the ass.

Re: Temporary suspension of acceptance of mail to the United States

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Post by trimethylpurine »

donkeybeer wrote: post #384
trimethylpurine wrote: post #377

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> You are not showing strength by tariffs you are showing how weak you are. Why does that matter?

Signals are important to pay attention to. Its not a nice thing to be weak as a country. It's alright if you think you need this or that tariff right now to prop up this or that key industry, but what happens over time if you continuously slide ever weaker. Its just a warning sign that must be paid heed to. A strong sector shouldn't need a tariff to survive. For better or worse your IT/tech sector is one of the good…

Americans hate the current tech sector. Google and Microsoft are among the most hated companies in the US. International reach and adherence to European legal pressure has forced European laws loosely on Americans in the form of blocked sites and "accept cookie" banners.

I'd guess that most Americans don't care much if Europe perceives a strong posture. That's not a very American ideology. Many Americans would ask if Spain is in the UK. That's not an exaggeration. Americans couldn't care less about what Europe thinks.

Re: Temporary suspension of acceptance of mail to the United States

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Post by donkeybeer »

trimethylpurine wrote: post #455
donkeybeer wrote: post #384

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Signals are important to pay attention to. Its not a nice thing to be weak as a country. It's alright if you think you need this or that tariff right now to prop up this or that key industry, but what happens over time if you continuously slide ever weaker. Its just a warning sign that must be paid heed to. A strong sector shouldn't need a tariff to survive. For better or worse your IT/tech sector is one of the good…

Americans hate the current tech sector. Google and Microsoft are among the most hated companies in the US. International reach and adherence to European legal pressure has forced European laws loosely on Americans in the form of blocked sites and "accept cookie" banners. I'd guess that most Americans don't care much if Europe perceives a strong posture. That's not a very American ideology. Many Americans would ask if…

It doesn't matter whether they like or hate the tech sector, I was just citing it as an example of an industry that is quite strong and doesn't need tariff protectionism.

Re: Temporary suspension of acceptance of mail to the United States

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Post by trimethylpurine »

donkeybeer wrote: post #456
trimethylpurine wrote: post #455

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Americans hate the current tech sector. Google and Microsoft are among the most hated companies in the US. International reach and adherence to European legal pressure has forced European laws loosely on Americans in the form of blocked sites and "accept cookie" banners. I'd guess that most Americans don't care much if Europe perceives a strong posture. That's not a very American ideology. Many Americans would ask if…

It doesn't matter whether they like or hate the tech sector, I was just citing it as an example of an industry that is quite strong and doesn't need tariff protectionism.

I see. But in fact the tech industry is largely protected by the government too. Congress has been paying TSMC to manufacture chips in the US and they've made it illegal to export them or manufacture them elsewhere.

Re: Temporary suspension of acceptance of mail to the United States

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Post by donkeybeer »

trimethylpurine wrote: post #457
donkeybeer wrote: post #456

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't matter whether they like or hate the tech sector, I was just citing it as an example of an industry that is quite strong and doesn't need tariff protectionism.

I see. But in fact the tech industry is largely protected by the government too. Congress has been paying TSMC to manufacture chips in the US and they've made it illegal to export them or manufacture them elsewhere.

I hope it was clear I was talking about your software industry.

Re: Temporary suspension of acceptance of mail to the United States

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Post by trimethylpurine »

donkeybeer wrote: post #458
trimethylpurine wrote: post #457

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see. But in fact the tech industry is largely protected by the government too. Congress has been paying TSMC to manufacture chips in the US and they've made it illegal to export them or manufacture them elsewhere.

I hope it was clear I was talking about your software industry.

Also protected. Visa programs geared specifically to lower development costs by importing labor, and tax rules that largely cater to off shore support and software development. They aren't hated for no reason, let's say. Those aren't the only reasons, but, Congress is indeed protecting their largest backers which are, as we all know, giant software companies.
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