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Global hack on Microsoft Sharepoint hits U.S., state agencies, researchers say

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Post by ubermonkey »

ethbr1 wrote: post #367
ubermonkey wrote: post #349

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was involved in a software startup that was aligned with MSFT 18 or so years ago. We built the web app side of our tool in Sharepoint precisely to be a good team player, and make ourselves more attractive to Redmond, even though it gave us no real benefits. The support problems were INSANE. We ended up spending an entire release cycle pulling the web app out of Sharepoint and just doing a proper stand-alone web sit…

Sharepoint’s problem, as parent alluded to, is that it’s three kids in a trenchcoat pretending to be an adult. At no time did MS seem to say “Here’s our vision for Sharepoint as a complete product.” Instead, you got coming on 25 years of random big customer feature asks + a home for lost MS product bits. It would surprise no one that performance of that has been atrocious for most of its life (for those not old enoug…

"At no time did MS seem to say 'Here’s our vision for Sharepoint as a complete product.'"

100% bang on.

Re: Global hack on Microsoft Sharepoint hits U.S., state agencies, researchers say

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Post by ceejayoz »

poemxo wrote: post #152

We need more Red Hat and less Microsoft in the on-prem enterprise business. These exploitable vulnerabilities are unacceptable when your customers are the likes of DoD. No one considers Google anything less than an impenetrable fortress, but when it's some government entity responsible for keeping American lives safe it's like "ah yeah they probably have a vulnerable on-prem Sharepoint that could easily be pwned." So…

> No one considers Google anything less than an impenetrable fortress…

I think it's deeply likely that most major intelligence agencies have people burrowed into the various FAANG type companies.

Like this guy, but less foolish about revealing it. https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/facebook-investiga...

Re: Global hack on Microsoft Sharepoint hits U.S., state agencies, researchers say

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Post by jodrellblank »

notakio wrote: post #450
jodrellblank wrote: post #386

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> "a solution which the business side tends to finds unreasonable" Isn't it odd that "unreasonable" solutions keep being suggested in threads started by people who first push Linux, and second ask what the thing even does anyway. > " Thus the tender balance between business needs and business risk emerges as the deciding principle. " There is no tender balance and this is nothing like the deciding principle, and agai…

Whoops. I used hyperbole, and it went undetected. Here: s/the deciding factor/a deciding factor/g. We're good now.

So now you've changed your position, what happens to your original claim "If every car in your neighborhood that gets broken into is manufactured by a single manufacturer, it is in your interest in asking why that is, and perhaps considering that fact when shopping for a new car."

Why would that need to be said at all, if businesses are using security as A [prominent] deciding factor already?

My reply "businesses are visibly not using it as a deciding factor" still seems correct.

Re: Global hack on Microsoft Sharepoint hits U.S., state agencies, researchers say

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Post by notakio »

jodrellblank wrote: post #453
notakio wrote: post #450

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whoops. I used hyperbole, and it went undetected. Here: s/the deciding factor/a deciding factor/g. We're good now.

So now you've changed your position, what happens to your original claim "If every car in your neighborhood that gets broken into is manufactured by a single manufacturer, it is in your interest in asking why that is, and perhaps considering that fact when shopping for a new car." Why would that need to be said at all, if businesses are using security as A [prominent] deciding factor already? My reply "businesses are…

We're still good now.

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Post by strogonoff »

lyu07282 wrote: post #445
strogonoff wrote: post #443

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I was actually on your side in this, oh well!

Only liberals could describe our system as "democratic capitalism" with a straight face, its absurd. I'm on the left, I'm not a liberal, so no, we are definitely not on the same side. I believe our intolerable levels of inequality and disparity is caused by systemic issues not some "bad actors".

OK.

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Post by cguess »

bee_rider wrote: post #378
richardwhiuk wrote: post #288

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None of those companies have a logistics chain which would at all be suitable for the US federal government. Even in corporate, there's basically two vendors - Dell, and a distant second Lenovo, with Apple having a foothold in niche usecases.

You used to be able to buy Dells with Linux pre-installed, quite a while ago. Did they stop?

Any corporation won't care if it comes with Linux pre-installed, as they'll want to image the machines themselves (CrowdStrike for instance).
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