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Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by _zagj »

0xEF wrote: post #374
_zagj wrote: post #367

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> your content is not used to train any underlying foundation models (FMs). This implies your "content" may be used for anything else, including training non-foundation LLMs. Frankly, even if their disclaimer were broader, I'd still probably not trust them.

As you shouldn't! Only a rube trusts a rule for which there is no real enforcement or punishment is a mere fine. If the erosion of consumer privacy has not taught us that simply stating "we won't use/sell your data" is the biggest lie of the 21st century, then I don't know what will.

The well-poisoning effect is especially strong in the AI space based on how blatant the big players have been in disregarding intellectual property law and how their crawlers behave like DDOS bot farms.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by totality »

cl0wnshoes wrote: post #78
NathanKP wrote: post #69

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Kiro is created by an AWS team, and originates from AWS expertise. We are using Kiro internally as one of our recommended tools for development within AWS (and Amazon). So Kiro is an official AWS product, however, we are also keeping it slightly separated from the rest of core AWS. For example, you can use Kiro without having any AWS account at all. Kiro has social login through Google and GitHub. Basically, Kiro is…

Seems like social login isn't working for me on OSX. Just downloaded Kiro, clicked the Google option, allowed the app, and then get redirected back to http://localhost:3128/oauth/callback with an error "Error: AuthSSOServer: missing state".

Can you please report an issue on our GitHub Issue tracker: https://github.com/kirodotdev/Kiro/issues?

Or can you join the Discord and message me directly @swaminator

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by tacker2000 »

umeshunni wrote: post #295
yakattak wrote: post #200

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All of these agentic IDEs could just be visual studio code plugins. They’re likely not because how do you secure VC funding for a plugin?

More importantly - how do you monetize a plugin?

There are lots of ecosystems where pro users pay for plugins to get extra features. See the ecommerce domain, jetbrains, even ms teams has plugins that are paid.

VSCode has some popular paid plugins like LSPs or some for git.

I dont see why it wouldnt be possible to monetize a VSCode plugin.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by daxfohl »

reactordev wrote: post #443
daxfohl wrote: post #436

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It depends. A lot of projects / features really don't require a ton of engineering thought. Add a new table that has some foreign keys with existing tables, add a new page that lets you modify that table, add a new set of REST CRUD handlers that do some validation and store the data, add a new message queue that does whatever needs to happen when the data gets changed. If AI can handle things like that, then let AI d…

>And in a way, as an engineer, that's what I want to be doing anyway… Yuk. That’s pure project management. > If, in the future, PMs can launch whole features without engineers writing a line of code, that's awesome. No it’s not! Because then, there is no incentive to engineer anything anymore. Just let the AI do it, Yey! Need new features? Let the AI do it! Need to fix your infrastructure, AI has your back! Has your…

That's the thing though. I think we're pretty close to AI being able to add fairly vanilla features that fit into the existing architecture fairly autonomously. But I think we're a long way away from AI being able to do major refactors by itself, or even determine what needs refactoring and when. Maybe someday it will, and it can already be useful in implementing pieces of a refactor, but it's nowhere near close on being able to design a major platform shift at the moment. That's entirely a human domain.

So while we're in the middle of those two pivot points, I think most of our work will be on the architecture side. Continuously clean up the platform so the LLM agents can keep humming along on it.

Eventually we'll perhaps get to the point where AI can automate 100% of this as well, and I have no clue what will become of engineers then. But I don't see that happening in the next ten years, and even when it does happen, I'm sure the changes will create whole new industries, workflows, and sets of problems for human engineers to solve. (SciFi me expects a whole new field of extracting the most value out of AI without letting it run amock. As fast as it goes, and as intelligent as it will be, we won't be able to just let it take over. We'll need to design guardrails for it so that it does the things you want, and doesn't make decisions that you don't want. This, by definition, has to be a human driven process. So I think there'll be work for human engineers to do for a long long time.)

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by williamzeng0 »

AstroBen wrote: post #322
williamzeng0 wrote: post #239

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Shameless plug but our co is building a AI plugin for JetBrains that has next edit autocomplete + a strong coding agent (sweep dev)

Isn't that competing directly with JetBrains themselves?

Yes but I think they have worse things to worry about, namely Cursor.

Also if you're interested our plugin is https://sweep.dev!

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by williamzeng0 »

jillesvangurp wrote: post #378
suralind wrote: post #12

Here my problem with this: I don't want to be jumping an editor/IDE every 6 months, learning new key bindings and even more importantly, getting used to a completely new look. In a space that moves as quickly as "AI" does, it is inevitable that a better and cheaper solution will pop up at some point. We kinda already see it with Cursor and Windsurf. I guess Claude Code is all the rage now and I personally think CLI/T…

What I like about OpenAI's codex is that it's not an IDE but a web based product that does things asynchronously from your normal workflow. It creates branches and pull requests. And you can iterate with it via git instead of working in the same tool. So, I can use the tools I use anyway and have AIs adapt to me instead of me having to adapt to new AI powered tools. I'm using a proper IDE (intellij). Me switching to…

IDEs are here to stay, I built an AI plugin for IntelliJ for that reason (https://sweep.dev/)

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by molszanski »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #449
newman314 wrote: post #244

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It would sure be nice to have some standardized conventions around this. AGENTS.md etc. It seems insane to have to have multiple files/rules for essentially the same goals just for different tools.

symlinks

Good coding and #prompting hack for coding. Imagine you have a large codebase and you work with other people and you want version control your .cursor folder. Just symlink it to another folder and version control that folder.

Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by [deleted] »

nsonha wrote: post #421
placardloop wrote: post #134

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Which is kind of ironic since the Amazon Q Developer CLI (which is essentially Claude Code with a slightly different wrapper) was released long before Claude Code and seems to mostly be flying under the radar.

Claude Code is what it is because of Claude, TUI or not isn't really the point. What makes IDEs lose to TUIs is that the agentic models can really do more than coding and is evolving toward a hands-off kind of workflow. A clunky IDE is too much for that, but TUI is not the way either. When has TUI ever been mainstream? Agentic tools of the future will be rich notebook/chat interface that's available in all form facto…

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Re: Kiro: A new agentic IDE

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Post by vivekjibw1234 »

qwertox wrote: post #251

Is this an Amazon product? When I click on "Legal" at the bottom of the page, I'm sent to AWS. The docs state at https://kiro.dev/docs/reference/privacy-and-security/#servic... that "Kiro is an AWS application that works as a standalone agentic IDE." But nowhere on the landing page or other pages it states that this is an Amazon product. What is going on? Edit: I see that @nathanpeck is the "author" and he works for…

This was launched on twitter by Amazon CEO Andy himself.
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