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Nvidia won, we all lost

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Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

#451
I just don't think NVidia cares all that much about it's gaming cards, except to the extent that they don't want to cede too much ground to AMD and basically preserve their image in that market for now. Basically they don't want to lose their legions of gaming fans that got them started, and who still carry the torch. But they'll produce the minimum number of gaming cards needed to accomplish that.

Otherwise the money is in the datacenter (AI/HPC) cards.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

#452

Why was the title of this post changed long after posting to something that doesn't match the article title? This editorializing goes directly against HN Guidelines (but was presumably done by the HN team?)

+1. "Nvidia won, we all lost" sets a very different tone than "NVIDIA is full of shit". It's clearly not the tone the author intended to set. Even more concerning is that, by editorializing the title of an article that is (in part) about how Nvidia uses their market dominance to pressure reviewers and control the narrative, we must question whether or not the mod team is complicit in this effort. Is team green afraid…

Probably malicious astroturfing is going on from Nvidia and the mods. @dang who was the moderator who edited the title?

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

#453

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that we're calling $500 GPUs "midrange" is proof that Nvidia's strategy is working.

What strategy? They charge more because manufacturing costs are higher, cost per transistor haven't changed much since 28nm [0] but chips have more and more transistors. What do you think that does to the price? [0]: https://www.semiconductor-digest.com/moores-law-indeed-stopp...

strategy of marketting expensive product as normal one? obviously?

if your product can't be cheap - your product is luxury, not a day-to-day one

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

#454

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the next boom? I honestly can’t think of one. Feels like we are just at the Age of the Plateau, which will be quite painful for markets and the world.

Humanoid robotics

relevant: Launch HN: K-Scale Labs (YC W24) – Open-Source Humanoid Robots - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44456904 - July, 2025 (97 comments)

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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post #418

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Okay let’s take off the tin foil hat for a second. HN has a very strong moderation team with years and years of history letting awkward (e.g. criticism of YC, YC companies) things stand.

> HN has a very strong moderation team with years and years of history letting awkward (e.g. criticism of YC, YC companies) things stand. the attempt to steer direction is well hidden, but it is very much there with https://hnrankings.info/ you can see the correction applied, in real time the hidden bits applied to dissenting accounts? far less visible

Oh wow, i always had that gut feeling, but now i know. Stop killing games went from consistent rank 2 to 102 in an instant. And it all happend outside my timezone so i didnt even know it existed here.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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post #418

Earlier quoted context omitted.

+1. "Nvidia won, we all lost" sets a very different tone than "NVIDIA is full of shit". It's clearly not the tone the author intended to set. Even more concerning is that, by editorializing the title of an article that is (in part) about how Nvidia uses their market dominance to pressure reviewers and control the narrative, we must question whether or not the mod team is complicit in this effort. Is team green afraid…

Okay let’s take off the tin foil hat for a second. HN has a very strong moderation team with years and years of history letting awkward (e.g. criticism of YC, YC companies) things stand.

I'm curious whether you're playing devil's advocate or if you genuinely believe that characterizing OP’s comment as “tin foil hat” thinking is fair.

The concentration of wealth and influence gives entities like Nvidia the structural power to pressure smaller players in the economic system. That’s not speculative -- it’s common sense, and it's supported by antitrust cases. Firms like Nvidia are incentivized to abuse their market power to protect their reputation and, ultimately, their dominance. Moreover, such entities can minimize legal and economic consequences in the rare instances that there are any.

So what exactly is the risk created by the moderation team allowing criticism of YC or YC companies? There aren’t many alternatives -- please fill me in if I'm missing something. In contrast, allowing sustained or high-profile criticism of giants like Nvidia could, even if unlikely, carry unpredictable risks.

So were you playing devil’s advocate, or do you genuinely think OP’s concern is more conspiratorial than it is a plausible worry about the chilling effect created by concentration of immense wealth?

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

#457

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> A system from 2017/2018 with an 8700K and an 8GB 2080 performs so closely to the top end, expensive systems today This is in no way true and is quite an absurd claim. Unless you meant for some specific isolated purposed restricted purely to yourself and your performance needs. > there are very few use cases I can think of needing more than a 30 series card right now. How about I like high refresh and high resolutio…

I have this exact CPU sans a 3090 (I started with 2080 but upgraded due to local AI needs). 8700k is perfectly fine for todays workloads. CPUs have stagnated and also the amount of RAM in systems has too (Apple still macbook air defaults of 8 GB in 2025??????)

It wasn’t “workloads” being talked about, it was gaming performance, the one area in which there is an absolutely huge difference mainly on the GPU side. We are taking a difference of close too if not 100%.

And despite CPUs stagnating it’s absolutely still possible to be held back on a stronger GPU with an older CPU especially in areas such as 1% lows, stuttering etc.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

#458

Why was the title of this post changed long after posting to something that doesn't match the article title? This editorializing goes directly against HN Guidelines (but was presumably done by the HN team?)

Haven't you figured out the new global agenda yet? Guidelines (and rules) exist only to serve the masters.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

#459

> With over 90% of the PC market running on NVIDIA tech, they’re the clear winner of the GPU race. The losers are every single one of us. I have been rocking AMD GPU ever since the drivers were upstreamed into the linux kernel. No regrets. I have also realized that there is a lot out there in the world besides video games, and getting all in a huff about it isn’t worth my time or energy. But consumer gotta consoooooo…

If I hadn't bought a 3090 when they were 1k new, I likely would've switched back onto the AMD train by now.

So far there hasn't been enough of a performance increase for me to upgrade either for gaming or ML. Maybe AMDs rumored 9090 will be enough to get me to open my wallet.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

#460

Why was the title of this post changed long after posting to something that doesn't match the article title? This editorializing goes directly against HN Guidelines (but was presumably done by the HN team?)

When titles are changed, the intent as I understand it is to nudge discussion towards thoughtful exchange. Discussion is forever threatening to spin out of control towards flame wars and the moderators work hard to prevent that.

I think that if you want to understand why it might be helpful to change the title, consider how well "NVIDIA is full of shit" follows the HN comment guidelines.

I don't imagine you will agree with the title change no matter what, but I believe that's essentially the rationale. Note that the topic wasn't flagged, which if suppression of the author's ideas or protection of Nvidia were goals would have been more effective.

(FWIW I have plenty of issues with HN but how titles are handled isn't one of them.)

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