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Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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> Click "Configure in AppCloud" Not found on this Samsung phone.

There was mention of GDPR so maybe this only exists for EU phones. --- I just received the data inside an email. It is just a HTML file with the headers "Data Privacy Report" and "Aura Up Privacy Report" but other than that it is empty. Obviously this is all just bullshit to pretend to comply with GDPR.

But we have GDPR here in UK too.

Who is the email sender?

Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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Or just don't get Samsung? I guess I don't know for sure that my phone brand doesn't do anything similar, but it at least hasn't hit the news yet.

All Android phone but pixel ones have bloatware preinstalled. Some are worst, like Xiaomi. If you don’t want bloatware (spyware), it’s either pixel or iPhone.

Wut? Besides that you can uninstall whatever you don't want or even replace the operating system with a bare android or whatever else you want, you're forgetting about Fairphone, Murena, and probably others. I had an apple phone for work once and it's not like it doesn't come with a lot of bloat preinstalled and tries to get your permission to snitch on where you are and what you do. It has toggles for some of the things but you can only do what apple lets you do. Also consider daily use, where you will install third party software to get stuff done: you're not better off with the necessarily commercial software from apple's store than with pretty much anything you can get on f-droid and other open source stores

Recommending Apple for privacy only makes sense for those who don't actually care and just want the feel-good premium brand

Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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> Samsung forcing Galaxy AI on me (try selecting some texts in a browser or webview) I did. No Galaxy AI.

Open an email from any email client and give it a try.

Done (Gmail). Still no AI.

Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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No need to ditch Android. Fairphone exists: https://fairphone.com Their stock android is fine. If you want more privacy, installing e/OS/ is trivial. It blows my mind that anyone is concluding Samsung stuff is worth buying under any circumstances.

Fairphone has astonishingly bad upgrades and patches policy. Very late, very delayed, not all of them. Sure, better than, say, Sony (and as an ex-Sony user I kind of know what I'm talking about), but far from calling it good.

Every vendor waits a month before sending out security patches, including Google. I've never understood this (with Linux desktops as my context) but so if you have a risk profile where the OS needs more frequent updates but still want to use Android, you need to take extra hardening steps such as limiting what you expose the OS to (from the outside (firewall, turn off unnecessary connections like Bluetooth) and inside (potentially malicious apps))

Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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I suspect a strong link between mass surveillance (by corporations for advertising or by states for intelligence purposes) and the very recent targeting of the senior Iranian nuclear scientist and military officers at their homes in Iran. Wherever you are from or whatever side of the conflict you are on, I think we can all agree that it’s never been easier to infer so much about a person from “semi-public” sources su…

> “Privacy is a human right” landed on deaf ears but hopefully politicians will soon realise that it’s a matter of national security too.

lol. lmao even.

this is the holy mary of security, politicians (US) will not give a damn as long as they’re not the ones being targeted and as long as the ad giants like google and co keep lining their pockets.

Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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The article and the post title make it sound like Samsung phones come with NSO software preinstalled and a drone strike is making its way to your living room. It's adware bloat. It's a privacy nightmare. It's predatory on the part of the OEM, be it Samsung or Lenovo or Microsoft or all the other OEMs that preinstall bloatware. It happens to be Israeli (though even that's not true - Unity is an American company).

There's no need to present it as anything less than what it is, it is enough of a scandal already. Fear mongering using the words "Israeli Spyware" just undermines the very just point being made.

Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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The article and the post title make it sound like Samsung phones come with NSO software preinstalled and a drone strike is making its way to your living room. It's adware bloat. It's a privacy nightmare. It's predatory on the part of the OEM, be it Samsung or Lenovo or Microsoft or all the other OEMs that preinstall bloatware. It happens to be Israeli (though even that's not true - Unity is an American company). Ther…

While I generally agree that it's disingenuous, this framing could activate the reflexive hate against Israel that many people share and actually get something done.

Would be funny if antisemitism led to good outcomes for once

Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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Deliberate abuse and misuse of a product is not covered under any normal warranty, and overclocking the CPU could fall into that category depending on the specific warranty (some CPUs could not be overclocked for that reason so it was irrelevant). User software is another matter altogether. Users could always install whatever they wanted. It seems you are not old enough to remember that the PC was originally designed…

> warranties took this into account and it was a normal procedure to add RAM, disk drives and video cards etc. without voiding the warranty Again, very limited warranties that only covered manufacturing defects. Not the warranties integrated products have today. In most cases, a manufacturing-defect warranty is not voided by rooting your device. (It may become more difficult to prove it’s a manufacturing defect, howe…

"You cannot provide accidental-damage insurance for a user adjusting their BIOS."

Rightly so because adjusting the BIOS won't cause harm!

PS: if you are referring to damage caused by oveclocking (if perchance it's available in the BIOS), then this is a user-accessible feature. As such, it'd be covered under warranty.

If a manufacturer played hardball and tried to dishonor the warranty then they wouldn't stand a chance against most consumer legislation in most parts of the world. They'd be toast where I am, not only would they have to honor the warranty but they'd be fined in the process.

Perhaps you're in a part of the US where consumer legislation is essentially nonexistent then things might be different. (The US is known worldwide for having the worst consumer legislation in the Western world.)

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> 30 milligrams of high explosive is enough to open your daughter's skull, or, more relevantly, your commanding officer's daughter's skull, and there are a thousand ways to deliver it While we are talking about flying drones, we are not far off from Slaughterbots becoming reality.[0] Why bother with surgical assassinations if you can blanket entire regions with with swarms of autonomous seek-and-destroy explosives? A…

What's important to remember is that we get to Slaughterbots with "best intentions." Trying to feel safer. Trying to kill our enemies. Trying to protect our friends, families, children. Little by little is how it happens. The road to hell is paved, after all.

Well, no. People with outright evil intentions, the kind that would hire a hitman, definitely also pour money and brains into the very same research.

Technologies are morally agnostic: a knife, a rifle, a piece of cryptography, they all work equally well for the noblest and the most nefarious purposes. It's the humans' task to structure the society in such a way that good uses of technology mostly dominate evil uses.

Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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post #309

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> 30 milligrams of high explosive is enough to open your daughter's skull, or, more relevantly, your commanding officer's daughter's skull, and there are a thousand ways to deliver it While we are talking about flying drones, we are not far off from Slaughterbots becoming reality.[0] Why bother with surgical assassinations if you can blanket entire regions with with swarms of autonomous seek-and-destroy explosives? A…

Slaughterbots is just the beginning; it's definitely too late to prevent that scenario now. Why bother? For the same reason to bother with surgical assassinations if you can blanket entire regions with nuclear fireballs. Radioactive wastelands are unprofitable! This is a general problem with genocide: it only gets you land, and since the Green Revolution land is abundant. Protection rackets, on the otehr hand, are hi…

This is correct. But the surgical precision is only enabled by the fact that a person can be reasonably well located and tracked. It's likely not hard to pinpoint a specific person of interest in a vast metropolis, but, IMHO, really hard or impossible to locate a specific wild zebra in an African savanna, because they do not wear tracking devices, and inhabit large areas. So you can target e.g. me in NYC much more easily than some specific zebra, even though the zebra is likely less intellectual and less privacy-conscious.

Hence, I suppose, important figures will eventually disappear from the public eye. Definitely, a president or a governor must be present in person at many events. But e.g. CEOs of military contractors, or even key scientists and developers in certain fields, may start to fade away, turn pseudonymous, and virtualize, now that remote work and videoconferencing is normalized. They would still be somehow trackable as normal citizens, but their visible connection to their work would be severed and kept an utmost secret, literally a life-and-death secret.

This would be good news for national defense, but bad news for any dissenters who cross any powerful-enough entities for those to consider an assassination or at least blackmailing. Unlike a hitman, a hit drone can be completely and safely destroyed beyond recognition within an hour, by burning it and grinding the ashes.

Also, precisely delivered non-lethal means could be quite effective, and hard to track. Inject or just spray a bad virus to disable your opponent for several critical months. Spray a potent allergen if the target is allergic. Inject some LSD into politician's bloodstream an hour before an important meeting or speech. "Innocent" stuff like that.

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