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If the AI actually outperforms humans in the full context of the work, then no, we won't. It will be so much cheaper and faster that businesses won't have to argue at all. Those that adopt them will massively outcompetes those that don't. However, assuming we are still having this conversation, that alone is proof to me that the AI is not that capable. We're several years into "replace all devs in six months." We wil…
> If the AI actually outperforms humans in the full context of the work, then no, we won't. IDEs outperform any “dumb” editor in full context of work. You don’t see any less posts about “I use Vim, btw” (and I say this as Vim user).
Generative AI coding tools and agents do not work for me
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#452Having said that, for simple ad-hoc code generation (I need a dump function for this data structure for example) AI's work great.
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#453Earlier quoted context omitted.
I welcome specific and actionable criticism. Would you like to engage with my (a) substance; (b) tone; (c) something else?
It's not organized well. As the reader I had to do too much work to discern your point and what was relevant. I'm sure it's obvious to you the writer, but one of the foundational skills of a good writer is empathy for their reader, whoever they may be. Even here, you think you're being open-minded, but you offered a multiple choice question, where the choices are reductive and it comes off as defensive. An open-ended…
> As the reader I had to do too much work to discern your point and what was relevant.
Re-reading, I hope the first ~15 words make my main point:
> Either/or fallacy. There exist a varied set of ways to engage with the technology...
Was this part unclear? Something else?
> you think you're being open-minded...
"Open minded" can mean very different things to different people. I recommend the article "The Proper Use of Humility" by Yudkowsky [1] because it rings true to me. I'm open to hearing other people's points of view, up to a point, given enough time. (Everyone has their limit, whether we admit it or not.) When it comes to assessing truth, I care about good arguments and good evidence, and I heavily discount anything else. If someone says I'm not "open minded" because of what I just wrote, then my reply would be "what do you want me to be more open to?"
There is a gem from in a comment below the above article that deserves repeating:
> People often take open disagreement as a sign of intellectual arrogance, while it is a display of respect and humility; showing respect with the honest acknowledgment of your disagreement, and showing humility in affording the other person a chance to defend themselves and prove you wrong. To say nothing is to treat that person's beliefs dismissively, as if they don't matter, and then assume that discussion was futile because they're incapable of understanding the truth, and of course, couldn't possible have anything to teach you.
> ...but you offered a multiple choice question, where the choices are reductive...
I offered two specific categories (tone or substance) and a third option for "anything else". I'm not following why this feels reductive to you; it leaves space for someone to reply however they like.
> and it comes off as defensive.
I've thought about this word quite a bit. From dictionary.com defensive means "excessively concerned with guarding against the real or imagined threat of criticism, injury to one's ego, or exposure of one's shortcomings." I'm open to criticism and happy to learn. If I'm wrong, I strive to admit it and apologize where needed. At the same time, I am confident enough to push back, stand up for myself, and defend my ideas (which is a different sense of 'defensive').
Here is the backstory to my second comment. The comment I replied to did not strike me as kind, much less well-intentioned. It probably was intended to be an insult, but I replied anyway. I gave the benefit of the doubt while challenging the commenter to give constructive criticism. I strived for clarity and confidence without being defensive or going on a counter-attack. This is a hard balance to strike.
[1] https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/GrDqnMjhqoxiqpQPw/the-proper...
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#454Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also, most problems are decomposable into simpler, certainly not novel parts. That intractable unicorn problem I hear so much about is probably composed of very pedestrian sub-problems.
to what does "unicorn problem" refer to? a specific thing or a general idea?
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#455> Another common argument I've heard is that Generative AI is helpful when you need to write code in a language or technology you are not familiar with. To me this also makes little sense. I'm not sure I get this one. When I'm learning new tech I almost always have questions. I used to google them. If I couldn't find an answer I might try posting on stack overflow. Sometimes as I'm typing the question their search wo…
To add, another experience I had. I was using an API I'm not that familiar with. My program was crashing. Looking at the stack trace I didn't see why. Maybe if I had many months experience with this API it would be obvious but it certainly wasn't to me. For fun I just copy and pasted the stack trace into Gemini. ~60 frames worth of C++. It immediately pointed out the likely cause given the API I was using. I fixed th…
Analyzing crash dumps and figuring out what's going on is a pretty useful skill.
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#456Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not organized well. As the reader I had to do too much work to discern your point and what was relevant. I'm sure it's obvious to you the writer, but one of the foundational skills of a good writer is empathy for their reader, whoever they may be. Even here, you think you're being open-minded, but you offered a multiple choice question, where the choices are reductive and it comes off as defensive. An open-ended…
Thanks for the feedback. > As the reader I had to do too much work to discern your point and what was relevant. Re-reading, I hope the first ~15 words make my main point: > Either/or fallacy. There exist a varied set of ways to engage with the technology... Was this part unclear? Something else? > you think you're being open-minded... "Open minded" can mean very different things to different people. I recommend the a…
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#457Great article. The other thing that you miss out on when you don't write the code yourself is that sense of your subconscious working for you. Writing code has a side benefit of developing a really strong mental model of a problem, that kinda gets embedded in your neurons and pays dividends down the track, when doing stuff like troubleshooting or deciding on how to integrate a new feature. You even find yourself solv…
The later is not making any neuron embedding tradeoff when they hand of the slog to agents.
There’s a lot of software development in that latter category.
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#458Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why not? I regularly have a couple Claude instances running in the background chewing through simple yet time consuming tasks. It’s saved me many hours of work and given me more time to focus on the important parts.
> a couple Claude instances running in the background chewing through simple yet time consuming tasks. If you don't mind, I'd love to hear more about this. How exactly are they running the background? What are they doing? How do you interact with them? Do they have access to your file system? Thank you!
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#459We ran into the same problem when rolling out AI-assisted code reviews and code generation pipelines. What helped us was adopting AppMod.AI's Project Analyzer: - Memory & context retention: It parses your full repo, builds architecture diagrams and dependency maps—so AI suggestions stay grounded in real code structure. - Human-in-the-loop chat interface: You can ask clarifying questions like, “Does this function follow our performance pattern?” and get guided explanations from the tool before merging. - Collaborative refactor tracking: It tracks changes and technical debt over time, making it easy to spot drift or architectural erosion—something pure LLMs miss. - Prompt-triggered cost and quality metrics: You can see how often you call AI, what it costs, and its success rates in passing your real tests—not just anecdotal gains.
It’s far from perfect, but it shifts the workflow from “LLM writes → you fix” to “LLM assists within your live code context, under your control.” Others have noted similar limitations in Copilot and GPT-4 based tools—where human validation remains essential .
In short: LLMs aren’t going to replace senior devs—they’re tools that need tooling. Blending AI insights with architecture-aware context and built-in human validation feels like the best middle path so far.
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#460Earlier quoted context omitted.
Of course there is. Humans can pattern match as a means to save time. LLM pattern match as the only mode of communication and “thought”. Humans are also not as susceptible to context poisoning, unlike llms.
Human thought is associative (pattern matching) as well. This is very well established.