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Crypto isn’t synonymous with anarchy, just like the internet isn’t synonymous with pornography. Both are cliches from long ago. All of the victims are likely tax payers. Law and order is a fundamental service that a legitimate state must provide to all in its jurisdiction, even those who are only resident non-citizens and those that pay little to no taxes in a progressive tax system.

> Crypto isn’t synonymous with anarchy, just like the internet isn’t synonymous with pornography. Both are cliches from long ago. Saying crypto isn’t synonymous with anarchy, like the internet isn’t with pornography, sidesteps the point. Pornography is just one use of the internet — not its central purpose. But crypto wasn’t just built to host financial activity — it was designed to restructure it, removing reliance…

That's not what it was designed for, that's just a mixture of propaganda and confusion.

It was designed to solve the double-spending problem with digital currencies, replacing the need for "a authoritative ledger" with a one difficult to forge.

The political project around this was to provide people with a deflationary currency akin to gold, whose inflation could not be controlled by government.

The lack of government control over the inflation of this particular currency, and the lack of an authoritative ledger, are an extremely minimal sense of currency protections (, freedoms). They have as much to do with anarchy as the internet had with porn.

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There is no bright line separating "money" from any other type of fungible asset

Except for, you know, being able to spend it where you buy things? And deposit it into an actual bank? Those seem sort of intrinsic to how we use money today. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_tender

> > There is no bright line [...]

> Except for, you know, being able to spend it where you buy things? [...]

The extent to which you can use it to buy things is a good metric, but I think that comes in varying degrees rather than being a sharp line or binary true/false. There are at least some things you can buy with cryptocurrency, and arguably there are some forms of "regular" (fiat, national, government-issued) money that aren't very widely accepted.

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If you had any significant assets on Coinbase at any time prior to this breach, spear phishing is the least of your worries. Coinbase not only leaked your full name and address, they also gave up your balances, your transaction history, and images of your government identification. People with "significant" crypto balances are being assaulted on the street and in their own homes, and family members are being kidnappe…

And yet, Coinbase goes Scott free Someone, someone at that company should be going to prison for negligence

Can you point to a specific law that was broken where prosecutors have a chance at jail time, or is this a fantasy of yours?

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> •Name, address, phone, and email;\ > blackmail each individual user Blackmail would be the least of my worries, in France we had at least five kidnappings/attempted kidnappings related to crypto investors since the beginning of the year.

This may seem callous, but isn't a large point of crypto that you are 'free' from the shackles imposed by the State? And I guess that includes protection from criminals by the oppressive forces of the State (aka the police). In which case being kidnapped and having your fingers sent to your family is an integral part of your 'freedom'.

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Re: Coinbase says hackers bribed staff to steal customer data, demanding $20M ransom

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This may seem callous, but isn't a large point of crypto that you are 'free' from the shackles imposed by the State? And I guess that includes protection from criminals by the oppressive forces of the State (aka the police). In which case being kidnapped and having your fingers sent to your family is an integral part of your 'freedom'.

The state takes a flat 30% tax on capital gains regardless of the source, I'd say they paid their fair share

Which state are you talking about? The 0% tax bracket for long-term capital gains in the U.S. for 2024 for single filers was $47,024, never mind the standard deduction. Then it goes up to 15%, then 20%.

Re: Coinbase says hackers bribed staff to steal customer data, demanding $20M ransom

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Why did those employees have access to such sensitive data? We could argue about the legal requirement to submit this data in general, but I really don't understand why (most of) this data isn't stored in an encrypted way and only accessible by a few people in the company.

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Yes that's true but it's weird they only focus on crypto investors' families? There are many rich people in France, what's the deal with cryptobros?

You can easily establish the connection from a bank account to a person. A connection from a crypto wallet to a person is extremely difficult. Money laundering with crypto is also much easier (and cheaper usually).

In the vast majority of cases, it's actually extremely easy. It took less than an afternoon for me to learn how to trace 90%+ of transactions on either BTC or any of the networks built on Ethereum or an Ethereum-like protocol. There are large companies that specialize in exactly this, which make tools that allow government agents who have no particular crypto expertise to trace the majority of transactions.

It is possible to make your transactions extremely difficult to trace, but you really, really, REALLY have to know what you're doing.

Law enforcement loves that people think it's easy and cheap to launder money with crypto, though. It's made it vastly easier for them to catch those people!

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Re: Coinbase says hackers bribed staff to steal customer data, demanding $20M ransom

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Blog post is here: https://www.coinbase.com/blog/protecting-our-customers-stand... > We will reimburse customers who were tricked into sending funds to the attacker due to social engineering attacks. If your data was accessed, you have already received an email from no-reply@info.coinbase.com; all notifications went out at 7:20 a.m. ET on 5/15 to affected customers.

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