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My understand is that Adobe deliberately made it difficult to cancel. I don’t even use Adobe, yet am well aware of their antics, indicating how far bad behaviour spreads via word of mouth.
Adobe runs what must be one of the largest deceptive rebills. The vast majority of users signing up for a monthly plan do not realize that it is actually an "annual plan, billed monthly" and thus that if they cancel after one month (for example) they'll be billed for the remaining 11 immediately. I honestly don't know how they haven't faced FTC action for this, as it's been their primary model for 5-10 years now.
> actually an "annual plan, billed monthly" and thus that if they cancel after one month (for example) they'll be billed for the remaining 11 immediately I don't know if this is a recent policy change, but it is not the complete amount but only 50% of the remaining annual amount as per their website[1]. If it were something involving physical goods or services I can understand, but 50% penalty is still a crazy amount…
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Just about everyone I know who works in graphic design doesn't have a high opinion of Adobe. Though in a sense you're right, many don't own a legal copy of Adobe products. But that's because they've chosen something else for their personal use and only make Adobe part of their workflow when required to by their workplace.
Every single graphics professional I've worked with (many) have owned their own copy of Creative Suite (or subscribed). It's akin to their "IDE", and they really get to know it inside-and-out. It would be difficult to become skilled in the various Creative Suite products if one didn't spend a lot of time (their own and employers) in it. The point I was raising here specifically was the people who are feigning outrage…
It's delusional.
Yeah, they posted this: > Hey, we're Adobe! We're here to connect with the artists, designers, and storytellers who bring ideas to life. What's fueling your creativity right now? > Drop a reply, tag a creator, or share your latest work—we'd love to see what inspires you! That's such a bland, corporate message. It feels totally inauthentic. Do Adobe (a corporation) really "love to see what inspires you" or do they jus…
I'm not surprised but disheartened that people have so little going on in their life they thing trying to boycott a bsky corporate account is a good use of their time.
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> actually an "annual plan, billed monthly" and thus that if they cancel after one month (for example) they'll be billed for the remaining 11 immediately I don't know if this is a recent policy change, but it is not the complete amount but only 50% of the remaining annual amount as per their website[1]. If it were something involving physical goods or services I can understand, but 50% penalty is still a crazy amount…
That's why you always use throwaway cards for this.
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> People either don't understand how these models work or they purposely misrepresent it (or purposely refuse to understand it). Not only that, they also assume or pretend that this is obviously violating copyright, when in fact this is a) not clear, and b) pending determination by courts and legislators around the world. FWIW, I agree with your perspective on training, but I also accept that artists have legitimate…
“Not only that, they also assume or pretend that this is obviously violating copyright, when in fact this is a) not clear, and b) pending determination by courts and legislators around the world.” Uh huh, so much worse than the people that assume or pretend that it’s obviously not infringing and legal. Fortunately I don’t need to wait for a lawyer to form an opinion and neither do those in favor of AI as you might’ve…
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I still don't see why this is a point against Adobe. When you select a plan, they very clearly give you 3 options. Monthly, Annual billed monthly, and Annual prepaid. The Annual billed monthly is just flat-out better for end users over prepaid. Why do people want to get rid of it? Because some people FAFO when trying to get an annual price while still being able to cancel any time? I do not like Adobe in the slightes…
It used to not be clear at all. Maybe it is now. https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/06/... Interestingly, just fyi, they do a reasonable-person test when trying these cases. That means they literally pull 100 people off the street and ask each one to go through the funnel and then give them a quiz with questions like "How much am I going to be billed?" So if people are confused, it's basically o…
But the contract plan is not aimed at them, but at literate computer users most of them working as freelancers (so with at least some financial knowledge).
The same way a Pilot Operating Handbook cannot be judged by the understanding of random 100 people off the street.
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deterministic is neither here nor there for copyright infringement. a hash of an image is not infringing, and a slightly noisy version of it is.
Nobody is trying to copyright an image hash and determinism matters because it’s why the outputs are derivative rather than inspired.
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The general mood on Bluesky is very opposed to AI, especially AI art. Since Adobe now has AI integrated into their products, people on Bluesky hate them.
There is an off-putting sort of attitude on BlueSky ("sneering mockery", I guess?). Same attitude was present on Twitter during the pre-Musk era and seems to have migrated over.
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> Adobe is the one major company trying to be ethical with its AI training data and no one seems to even care. It's because nobody actually wants that. Artists don't like AI image generators because they have to compete with them, not because of how they were trained. How they were trained is just the the most plausible claim they can make against them if they want to sue OpenAI et al over it, or to make a moral argu…
I don't think all artists are treating this tool as such an existential threat.
You cannot find any group, where "all" is true in such context. There's always an element of outlier.
That said, you're not really an artist if you direct someone else to paint. Imagine a scenario where you sit back, and ask someone to paint an oil painting for you. During the event, you sit in an easy chair, watch them with easel and brush, and provide direction "I want clouds", "I want a dark background". The person does so.
You're not the artist.
All this AI blather is the same. At best, you're a fashion designer. Arranging things in a pleasant way.