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Re: Tell HN: Announcing tomhow as a public moderator

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Post by diggan »

gadders wrote: post #449
tomhow wrote: post #173

Many thanks for the warm welcome, everyone. It’s been a privilege to help support this community and to work alongside dang, who has been a great friend and mentor for many years. It’s a great responsibility, to keep HN a healthy and thriving community, and I’m continually amazed to see all the ways dang puts thought and energy into it. One final note is that it was never part of the negotiations that I was expected…

Please rewrite HN as an SPA using the most bleeding edge alpha JavaScript frameworks you can find.

I dunno if you got the memo, but we're in 3rd of April now, no more jokes allowed, especially not traumatic ones like those.

Re: Tell HN: Announcing tomhow as a public moderator

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Post by [deleted] »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #362
nailer wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you post (by way of example only, please observe the use-mention distinction here) a polite version of "ads are good and adblockers are stealing", and get a massive pile of downvotes... Sure, I imagine the grandparent poster means arguing something like "limiting access for extensons is good because they're often used to steal financial assets". Old extensions are sold, or cracked and updated to inclue malware.

I want to avoid letting a meta-level conversation slip into object-level. But using the object-level as an example, I would expect a comment that acknowledges the types of things that are hard to build with Manifest V3, particularly more advanced adblocking , and acknowledges that there need to be solutions for those things , and makes the point that letting extensions be all-powerful does lead to problems and that a…

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Re: Tell HN: Announcing tomhow as a public moderator

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Post by nailer »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #362
nailer wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you post (by way of example only, please observe the use-mention distinction here) a polite version of "ads are good and adblockers are stealing", and get a massive pile of downvotes... Sure, I imagine the grandparent poster means arguing something like "limiting access for extensons is good because they're often used to steal financial assets". Old extensions are sold, or cracked and updated to inclue malware.

I want to avoid letting a meta-level conversation slip into object-level. But using the object-level as an example, I would expect a comment that acknowledges the types of things that are hard to build with Manifest V3, particularly more advanced adblocking , and acknowledges that there need to be solutions for those things , and makes the point that letting extensions be all-powerful does lead to problems and that a…

> acknowledges that there need to be solutions for those things

Why is this required, in order not for the comment to be downvoted to oblivion? You may be confusing bias with nuance.

Re: Tell HN: Announcing tomhow as a public moderator

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Post by JoshTriplett »

nailer wrote: post #453
JoshTriplett wrote: post #362

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want to avoid letting a meta-level conversation slip into object-level. But using the object-level as an example, I would expect a comment that acknowledges the types of things that are hard to build with Manifest V3, particularly more advanced adblocking , and acknowledges that there need to be solutions for those things , and makes the point that letting extensions be all-powerful does lead to problems and that a…

> acknowledges that there need to be solutions for those things Why is this required, in order not for the comment to be downvoted to oblivion? You may be confusing bias with nuance.

I'm giving an example, which to some degree was meant as an existence proof of a way to support an unpopular position without getting massive downvotes. "X is entirely good with no problems whatsoever" being replaced by "I think the benefits of X outweigh the costs, and here's some acknowledgement of the costs". I'm not trying to suggest only one possible way to do that, or only one pattern to follow. (This is one danger of using an object-level example.)

Re: Tell HN: Announcing tomhow as a public moderator

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Post by coldpie »

yeahitsgreat12 wrote: post #446

How does such a large famous forum get by with 1 computer and 2 mods. Theres no spam here. No fighting. How odd for the internet in 2025 XD

No images. No reposting. No (public) popularity contest stats. A general vibe against politics posting. There's just not much here to attract the worst kinds of behavior.

Re: Tell HN: Announcing tomhow as a public moderator

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Post by MrMcCall »

coldpie wrote: post #455
yeahitsgreat12 wrote: post #446

How does such a large famous forum get by with 1 computer and 2 mods. Theres no spam here. No fighting. How odd for the internet in 2025 XD

No images. No reposting. No (public) popularity contest stats. A general vibe against politics posting. There's just not much here to attract the worst kinds of behavior.

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Re: Tell HN: Announcing tomhow as a public moderator

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Post by robertlagrant »

gadders wrote: post #449
tomhow wrote: post #173

Many thanks for the warm welcome, everyone. It’s been a privilege to help support this community and to work alongside dang, who has been a great friend and mentor for many years. It’s a great responsibility, to keep HN a healthy and thriving community, and I’m continually amazed to see all the ways dang puts thought and energy into it. One final note is that it was never part of the negotiations that I was expected…

Please rewrite HN as an SPA using the most bleeding edge alpha JavaScript frameworks you can find.

The one thing that could improve HN is rendering fonts clientside on to a full screen Canvas element. Then all we need is a client-side framework for interpreting the element's pixels into HTML for screen reader support.

Re: Tell HN: Announcing tomhow as a public moderator

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Post by _Algernon_ »

BergAndCo wrote: post #396
ddingus wrote: post #53

Observation: How lucky are we that our contributions here warrant two fine moderators? I just read Tom's brief story on how he arrived here and what it means and felt... I don't really have a quick word for it. I know I am better for having spent time here. Oh, I got it! A tiny bit spoiled, but in the best of ways. Yeah, that is what I felt. How lucky we are indeed. :)

Do you have showdead enabled to see how many good comments are being unfairly censored? Otherwise this is just survivorship bias talking.

I have had showdead enabled for years and I think I can count the number of dead comments that didn't deserve the status on one hand.

Re: Tell HN: Announcing tomhow as a public moderator

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Post by _Algernon_ »

dang wrote: post #424
BergAndCo wrote: post #396

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have showdead enabled to see how many good comments are being unfairly censored? Otherwise this is just survivorship bias talking.

If you see a good comment in the [dead] state, you don't have to complain about it being "unfairly censored" - you can intervene to fix it by vouching for it. This is in the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html .

That requires the user to reach the "small karma threshold". Difficult when the user you replied to has negative karma after several months of HN participation.
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