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Re: Everyone knows all the apps on your phone

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The subreddit is mostly younger folks more aligned with the "fanboy" attitude, they downvoted because it was a critique of Android. Hacker news understands the concept of constructive criticism.

I wouldn't say understand, but better understands

It also helps that you need to have a certain _rank_ to be able to downvote on here, as opposed to the default rights you get on reddit.

Re: Everyone knows all the apps on your phone

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Does El Salvador do gulags? I thought that was more of a Russian approach to imprisonment.

Parent commenter doesn't mean literal gulags, but a similarly bad place sent people to by a similarly bad government.

I think the commenter was asking for a clarification on the hyperbole used. Unsure on the intend being candidly asked or there was an agenda (as it is often the case with political discussions).

Hopefully the El Salvador deal is a far cry from the internment camps from the 19th & 20th century.

Re: Everyone knows all the apps on your phone

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Parent commenter doesn't mean literal gulags, but a similarly bad place sent people to by a similarly bad government.

I think the commenter was asking for a clarification on the hyperbole used. Unsure on the intend being candidly asked or there was an agenda (as it is often the case with political discussions). Hopefully the El Salvador deal is a far cry from the internment camps from the 19th & 20th century.

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Re: Everyone knows all the apps on your phone

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iPhone users reading this like…. I love my iPhone.

If the article explained why iPhone was worse than Android at something they'd be like "whatever, I love my iPhone" so I don't see how that statement adds any new information.

I’m not sure that’s true. I wish there was a foldable version of the iPhone.

I just think better privacy and security controls and stricter app guidelines are a reason people choose the iPhone over Android, so this really isn’t a surprise to people that have been paying attention. It’s the tradeoff we make for the walled garden approach, but I think it makes sense for a smart phone and less so for a general purpose computer.

Re: Everyone knows all the apps on your phone

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You are comparing desktops to phones. I do most things on my desktop for the reasons you say but on a phone multiple tabs etc is a pain.

No, I’m saying that the booking.com app, or the Skyscanner app or any of their competitors don’t support multiple tabs. Their websites do (although even on new phones you are at a greater risc of a tab being purged and needing a reload, but still you can multi tab on the mobile website)

Ah the difference here is that I can't use multiple tabs on my phone as they are too small. So tabs are only relevant to me on desktops and even then I will often use new windows.

Re: Everyone knows all the apps on your phone

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Perhaps crazy question: is it a good idea to have two phones now? One for making calls only, with as many apps as possible removed. And another phone for email, web surfing, photos, etc...? edit: Oops, I left out texting. Which phone for that?

phones had/some still have user profile/account option so you can do this on a single phone

Re: Everyone knows all the apps on your phone

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You go to the nhs webpage and it works in the same way. Login is better on the iOS app as you can use touch id/faceId and not userid/password also the webpage asks for cookies as it can't seem to remember the choice

Really? What's the URL that would allow me to see test results and book appointments?

Unfortunately that seems to depend on who did the test or your GP.

There seem to be sites for your GP (which mine does via a .nhs.uk domain it used to be via https://account.patientaccess.com/ which still shows appointments but does not allow booking but still allows requests for repeat prescriptions.) or hospital portal for results.

Re: Everyone knows all the apps on your phone

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> It's worth acknowledging that there are some legitimate reasons for an app to check which other apps are installed on your phone. For example, an app might check which UPI apps are installed to show relevant payment options. Nope! Nope, nope, nope. If you're wondering how we got into this situation.. well, it's exactly stuff like this. Weird to see someone who's digging into it at all also making excuses for it. No…

Yes, the phone can handle the UPI intent.

What actually needs to be done is to remove the "default" feature and ask every-time.

For finer control (get ₹X off on using Y app), apps can make their own intent.

Re: Everyone knows all the apps on your phone

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post #302

So I downloaded a few dozen Indian apps I could think of on top of my head and started reading their manifest files How do you download apps from the Android app store and read their manifest files? Does this mean one could make a website that lists all those manifest file, so the users could decide against using apps that use this loophole?

You can get APKs for each installed app

Re: Everyone knows all the apps on your phone

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Privacy issues aside, it's kinda cool reading about how Indians use their phones, and also how they use English. I'd never heard "beyond the pale" before, and I'm still not sure what the idea of "multiple Indias" means when some of them are Mexico and some are Africa...? I've also never heard of the majority of the apps being analyzed or tracked. Must be such a different world out there.

It's the average cooldude marketing of self-proclaimed "India 1", denigrating their own people and can't think outside of labeling others as something else.

These people are extremely snobbish in person when you go past their sweet talks, who don't understand much about people. I hated the "real" interactions and went back to being an IC in big tech.

Part of it is because they don't understand them, part of it is because they "understand" via someone else who told them stuff (like a redditor assuming everything on r/india is true), part of it is their own contempt of culture due to previous reasons ("ah these people are beyond any repair!"). Basically, ignorance in elites.

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