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Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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I personally don't use NFC payment at all. I just can't see the utility in it. If I leave the house I have my wallet, and I find it easier to take my card out of my wallet than to fiddle with NFC on my phone.

Wonder if this is a nationality thing? In the UK I'd say ~30% of sales are done via phones/watches these days.

I’m in the US and in the last few years things have flipped to where I’m more surprised when a place doesn’t have tap to pay.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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I know that the diabetic community are extremely interested on these watches. 30 days of battery life, already working support for Android APS and xDrip with these watches. What is there not to like. Put one of these to your child's wrist and they can get alerts on the glucose level easily.

I don't understand how the watches help with glucose levels. The specs mention step, sleep and heart rate tracking. What am I missing? (Vested interest as a diabetic myself.)

It's all about building these things by yourself. The tools are there, and Pebble used to be the first smartwatch every open source diabetic I know used (including myself).

If you're not familiar, here's a good starting point:

https://androidaps.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

Oh, and you want to avoid Apple's hardware. Some of the software can only be distributed as source code, so installing them to an iOS device is not easy.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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I'll be hanging out here - happy to answer any questions you have!

The original pebble was almost entirely dependent on it's connection with the android/ios app. Given the increase in onboard processing capabilities, are there any plans to allow for a more standalone experience?

As an iPhone+AW (S6) user, I consider the two devices married, perhaps even sharing the same mind. Almost everything that I can do with one is instantly and transparently mirrored on the other.

I can still leave my phone at home, and since I don't have a mobile connection on the watch (intentionally), it means I'm truly and fully offline - but I get to keep many features. I can listen to music (direct connection to BT headphones), tick items off the shopping list, pay for stuff, look up my schedule, etc. Some things could work offline where they currently don't (e.g. weather, maps/public transport), but the caching/syncing is overall surprisingly decent.

Unfortunately, it's all using private APIs, no third party watch has the same access, and you can't e.g. pair the AW with an iPad. But otherwise I think it should be the golden standard (perhaps DMA could get Apple to open up the APIs).

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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This sounded to me like a device I might want, but the price is offputting to me. $150 is not cheap device. It's nearly 10x the used price of the smartwatch I wearing right now.

The CEO did a Reddit AMA:

https://www.reddit.com/r/pebble/comments/1jea5cc/ama_with_er...

I am surprised by his comment there:

« Honestly 5 years seems pretty good for a $150 consumer gadget. »

So, its creator feels that a $150 watch is cheap. Huh. That is interesting.

I never owned a Pebble, but I’ve had 3 smartwatches in the last 8 years: an original Amazfit Bip which I liked a lot. It lasted 5 years, its battery life was 6 weeks when new and 4 weeks when old, it was always-on and daylight-readable, and it was about $70.

https://www.cnet.com/reviews/amazfit-bip-review/

When it finally died, I replaced it with a Bip 5 last year. I didn’t like it – screen is wake-on-demand, it wasn’t sensitive enough to a wrist-flip to wake it so I had to press a button, and the battery life was down to 10 days. Higher-res screen, more colours, but no additional useful functionality to me. It cost about $80.

https://www.amazfit.com/products/amazfit-bip-5

So I sold it on for about $45, over half what I paid, and bought a used Amazfit Neo. It looks like a real watch, it was £15 used – about $20 – and it’s always-on, battery life in weeks, very visible, has a backlight, and does the essentials.

https://www.gsmarena.com/amazfit_neo_review-news-45962.php

So I’ve had three watches now and the total price of all 3 put together is about what Eric here dismisses as a consumer gadget.

Huh.

That is a potential Ratner’s moment right there.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/ratner-losses-me...

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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This sounded to me like a device I might want, but the price is offputting to me. $150 is not cheap device. It's nearly 10x the used price of the smartwatch I wearing right now. The CEO did a Reddit AMA: https://www.reddit.com/r/pebble/comments/1jea5cc/ama_with_er... I am surprised by his comment there: « Honestly 5 years seems pretty good for a $150 consumer gadget. » So, its creator feels that a $150 watch is cheap…

I felt the same way, but this thread seems to be full of people primed by Apple Watch pricing. Not sure how much that will translate to purchases in the end though, in my experience these folks are likely to leave a glowing comment and then just stick to their Apple Watches.

As someone who just wanted a low-frills smartwatch and was following repebble for that, I'm disappointed and have unsubscribed from their update emails. This thread at least pointed me towards a bunch of other good options though, so it got me there in the end.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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This sounded to me like a device I might want, but the price is offputting to me. $150 is not cheap device. It's nearly 10x the used price of the smartwatch I wearing right now. The CEO did a Reddit AMA: https://www.reddit.com/r/pebble/comments/1jea5cc/ama_with_er... I am surprised by his comment there: « Honestly 5 years seems pretty good for a $150 consumer gadget. » So, its creator feels that a $150 watch is cheap…

I think because this is a small batch run of watches for those who are fans of Pebble. Think of it almost like we would say an FPGA device for playing retro games, or a retro upscaler. They're usually prices quite high because they're niche items with small production runs.

These watches are for people who were fans of the original Pebble and miss it, therefore they're willing to pay a bit more to get back something that they thought they'd lost.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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I was worried about it using an "e-paper" display considering the originals used Sharp MiP LCDs, however from that demo video the refresh rate is insane! I guess I haven't looked at e-paper modules in a wee while!

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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I'll be hanging out here - happy to answer any questions you have!

A few, not sure HN will format this correctly so my bad if these get mushed together:

* The originals used Sharp MiP but advertised them as "e-paper" do your new models use MiP LCD (or similar) or actual "e-paper" ie "e-ink" (electrostatic capsules).

* Pebble time round 2?!?!

* The touchscreen - this is an issue I had on my Galaxy watch including the bezel rotating as well. Are there efforts to pevent the touchscreen from inadvertently doing things when I'm resting one arm against the other? For Galaxy watch I had to switch off bezel rotation/touch screen waking the watch & only allow buttons, because it would constantly wake up when I had my arms crossed/resting position.

* The backlight, is it backlit or front-lit? I suppose this more relates to if it's genuine capsule e-paper, then it would be nice to be front-lit.

* No compass or barometer on CT2?

Thank you! <3

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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I have no reason to think that it will not work well for 2 years, but I am not prepared to guarantee that in a warranty. That would be taking on too much risk as a small company.

Your explanation is reason enough to cancel. I have experienced enough hardware fails the day after the warranty to avoid purchasing anything that I do not consider disposable. I still have my Vector watch which suffered the same fate as Pebble. I am curious about the risk of a "at cost" replacement. I have avoided buying a FitBit to replace my existing FitBit because their warranty is also limited to "one year" whic…

This project isn't Apple or Google, lmao. I think a 2 year warranty is already a boon for what is essentially a KS project.
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