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Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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You made me look : it's about 27% [1], which is of course not great, but actually not that bad _for him_, _in the past few years_. The political landscape is completely split in 3 thirds in France at the moment, and people stay firmly in their lanes. It would need an incredibly popular décision to bring anyone from the left or far right to approve of him. [1] https://www.latribune.fr/la-tribune-dimanche/politique/bar…

Thanks for actually looking things up instead of dreaming things up. This reminds me of Trumps claim that Zelensky is a hugely impopulair dictator, whereas in fact his approval ratings far exceed Trumps and he is very much legally chosen. Misinformation is a disease.

That said, I was also expecting smaller numbers, mostly based on how comedians are routinely roasting him about his latest declaration on Russia.

So there is, at the same time, an "oh, god, he's trying to use Russian fearmongering" effect that is just too big for comedians not to use ; and, somehow, a "rally around the flag" effect where people thinks he's actually on to something.

I would love to know if someone has studied the effects of comedians on misinformation. Hyperbole and exagérations are par for the course when making jokes - I just don't know if people are starting to take comedians both seriously (as you should) and literally (as you should not.)

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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I love that this is funded by the French&German government. Go Europe! Wonderful to see. My only wish is that other EU governments (my own included) would invest even more into projects like this.

Hey! The Netherlands joined recently. Let’s hope more countries follow

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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That's a nice shot, that probably is not going to change much. This is a neat alternative for Notion if you are small company, but with strong IT team that will maintain installation (all the boring stuff from updates to backups). If you are 20 person startup then Notion will cost you around 200 Euro per month. Having Docs installation will be cheaper? Will 200 Euros cover the expenses? I am afraid the math is not on…

Hey there! Thanks for the comment. I have to disagree with you. For government and large legs it makes less and less sense to just pay for licences. If you pay per user it becomes a huge chunk of your budget AND you have no control on your IT nor the budget to hire people. In the context we live and especially in Europe it also make no sense to opt for an American vendor who has to give access to US gov if asked to. And for small orgs I don’t see why there’d be no large mutualized instance that everyone can use for a reasonable price that pays for the ops team running it + server expenses.

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Does this provide database functionality like seen in Notion? I'm always disappointed by note-taking tools calling themselves a Notion alternative when they do not provide an alternative to Notion and are instead just another note-taking tool with a simple UI. If you want to be a Notion alternative provide the things that make Notion great, e.g. the database functionality. It's okay to be a simple colaborative notes…

Hey! Docs’s PM here.

IMO Notion really made an awesome job with real-time, collab features (comments, suggestions) and useful AI actions. So much, people only see databases ^^.

For now we’ll be focusing on these. That’s already plenty ^^ Further down road we’ll if we manage to take on databases.

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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it is very much one of the most reproducible apps ever Would love to move to an alternative that also works in the browser, got any suggestions? I haven't found one that does what Notion does. I genuinely want to get off their AI training grounds but cannot. Your comment reeks of condescension because you are not the target user.

We are currently moving to the Odoo knowledge application. It's very similar to notion but much less sluggish.

Odoo is powerful but a hideous ui and ux, which bloats the platform.

I feel like if Odoo foxed this it could be incredibly useful

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