All I see here is coping by developers. You all are so blind to what’s coming. Let’s not forget, if you relied on hacker news to give you accurate takes on things, you would’ve never bought bitcoin at one cent.
What is coming? AGI that will destroy any notion of property rights or freedom that you ever held? Or something better?
I've been using Claude Code for a couple of days
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Re: I've been using Claude Code for a couple of days
#452I must be the dumbest "prompt engineer" ever, each time I ask an AI to fix or even worse, create something from scratch it rarely returns the right answer and when asked for modification it will struggle even more. All the incredible performance and success stories always come from these Twitter posts, I do find value in asking simple but tedious task like a small refactor or generate commands, but this "AI takes the…
I think it's probably the difference between "code" and "programming". An LLM can produce code and if you're willing to surrender to the LLMs version of whatever it is you ask for, then you can have a great and productive time. If you're opinionated about programming, LLMs fall short. Most people (software engineers, developers, whatever) are not "programmers" they're "coders" which is why they have a positive impres…
And I don't believe until I see LLMs can use real debugger to figure out a root cause for a sophisticated, cascading bug.
Re: I've been using Claude Code for a couple of days
#453Earlier quoted context omitted.
Probably about 3 minutes? That's my main usage of these types of coding tools, honestly. I already know generally what I want to happen and validating that the LLM is on the right track / reached the right solution is easy. I'm not saying that "Claude Code makes me 300% more effective", but I guess it did for this (simple) task.
And how long would it take you to debug AI generated code again and again?
Re: I've been using Claude Code for a couple of days
#454Earlier quoted context omitted.
Bugs from engineers comes from a variety of reasons and most have nothing in common with an LLM hallucinating. For exemple I can’t remember seing a PR with an API that seems plausible but never ever existed, or an interpretation of the specs so convoluted and edgy that you couldn’t even use sarcasm as a justification for that code. Don’t take me wrong: some LLMs are capable of producing bugs that looks like humans on…
> For exemple I can’t remember seing a PR with an API that seems plausible but never ever existed A PR is code that has already been tested and refined, which is not comparable to the output of an LLM. The output of an LLM is comparable to the first, untested code that you wrote based off of your sometimes vague memory of how some API works. It's not at all uncommon to forget some details of how an API works, what ca…
Re: I've been using Claude Code for a couple of days
#455I must be the dumbest "prompt engineer" ever, each time I ask an AI to fix or even worse, create something from scratch it rarely returns the right answer and when asked for modification it will struggle even more. All the incredible performance and success stories always come from these Twitter posts, I do find value in asking simple but tedious task like a small refactor or generate commands, but this "AI takes the…
I'm curious when we'll start seeing verifiable results like live code streams with impressive results or companies dominating the competition with AI built products.
Re: I've been using Claude Code for a couple of days
#456Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, I'm paid much more to do much more than what I did in this simple task. Claude didn't even test the changes (in this case, it does not have the hardware required to do that), or decide that the feature needed to be implemented in the first place. But my comparison wasn't "how do I compare to Claude Code", it was "how does Aider compare to Claude Code". My boss does not use Aider or Claude Code, and would not be h…
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Re: I've been using Claude Code for a couple of days
#457I must be the dumbest "prompt engineer" ever, each time I ask an AI to fix or even worse, create something from scratch it rarely returns the right answer and when asked for modification it will struggle even more. All the incredible performance and success stories always come from these Twitter posts, I do find value in asking simple but tedious task like a small refactor or generate commands, but this "AI takes the…
LLM are replacing Google for me when coding. When I want to get something implemented, let's say make a REST request in Java using a specific client library, I previously used Google to find example of using that library. Google has gotten worse (or the internet has more garbage) so finding code an example is more difficult than it used to be. Now I ask an LLM for an example. Sometimes I have to ask for a refinement…
Re: I've been using Claude Code for a couple of days
#458Nothing fancy or special. It was built with streamlit in about 150 lines and a single file. But I was impressed that Claude code 1 shot it
Re: I've been using Claude Code for a couple of days
#459Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you comparing only the generation time with your coding time? How are the figures if you include the necessary step of checking the generated code? And how do these times change if you are coding in a very complex environment?
To be clear, I explicitly picked this task because my judgement call was that it was going to be faster to use an AI than coding it myself. Checking the generated code was easy for me to do (whether I or the AI wrote it). I don't know what you mean by "how do these times change if you are coding in a very complex environment", but to restate my original post: I'm fearful that Claude's additional autonomy will allow i…
Re: I've been using Claude Code for a couple of days
#460I decided to check this out after seeing the discussion here. I had previously misunderstood that it required a Claude.ai plan, but it actually just uses your API keys. I did a comparison between Claude Code and Aider (my normal go-to): I asked it to do clone a minor feature in my existing app with some minor modifications (specifically, a new global keyboard shortcut in a Swift app). Claude Code spent about 60 secon…