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Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by ndiddy »

bdhcuidbebe wrote: post #443
apparent wrote: post #394

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How old is your phone/battery? When you say less than a day, do you mean 24 hrs or the period of time you're awake?

iPhone 13 mini, i mean 24 hours

Of course your phone has a short runtime, it both has a small battery and it's 3 years old so the battery's worn out. One of the main reasons why small phones remain a niche is that improvements in battery technology have been far outpaced by improvements in SoCs, so the easiest way to improve a device's battery life vs. the older model is to make it larger so it can fit a bigger battery. Even when it was new, the regular iPhone 13 had a 3220 mAh battery while the 13 mini had a 2400 mAh battery, despite both having the same processor. You end up sacrificing battery life to achieve the small size.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by nunez »

jansan wrote: post #308
Mistletoe wrote: post #229

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I wish they would make a mini version of this, it would be perfect. After the 13 Mini, us small phone lovers are screwed.

Lots of Android options available, and much more affordable.

Not at the same size (I spent a lot of time looking).

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by bscphil »

happyopossum wrote: post #269
kemayo wrote: post #18

Let's see... it's replacing the SE, which is no longer on Apple's website. It's more expensive than the SE, at $599 vs $429. It's a pretty substantial hardware upgrade over the SE, including something like 75% more battery life by Apple's numbers, but it's also noticeably bigger. Apple's own comparison tool is useful: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone-16e,i...

> but it's also noticeably bigger. I dunno, the old SE wasn’t a mini by any means - this is .3 inches taller and .2 inches wider, so yes bigger but not like a different size class altogether

The SE had a pretty huge bezel though. That's an annoying feature of it, but at the same time it means that the screen was actually much smaller than the 16e's screen, and therefore (depending on how you hold it) easier to use one handed, which is what most people who want a small phone are looking for.

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Post by andbberger »

melvinmelih wrote: post #274
whitepoplar wrote: post #263

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It has wireless charging, just not MagSafe.

Yeah but the MagSafe charger I've spent $150 on doesn't work without the magnetic part.

does the target market for a cheap iphone spend $150 on a charger?

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by mattgreenrocks »

throwaway48476 wrote: post #448
apparent wrote: post #407

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You can record videos for later playback on the AVP, in case you care. There's also UWB and magsafe on the vanilla 16. And the dynamic island and the camera control button. But it's mostly little things, which many people probably don't care about.

No, no one cares about AVP.

I had to google that to even decipher what it is, and we have way too many Apple devices in our house :)

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by mattgreenrocks »

melvinmelih wrote: post #274
whitepoplar wrote: post #263

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It has wireless charging, just not MagSafe.

Yeah but the MagSafe charger I've spent $150 on doesn't work without the magnetic part.

Is MagSafe worth it? I think I've misaligned my iPhone 12 mini once on my Qi charger total over the past five years or so.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by seec »

SirMaster wrote: post #340
dfabulich wrote: post #123

Check out the battery life! > iPhone 16e has the best battery life ever on a 6.1-inch iPhone, lasting up to six hours longer than iPhone 11 and up to 12 hours longer than all generations of iPhone SE. Their page comparing models claims the new 16e gets "26 hours video playback." iPhone 16e: 26 hours iPhone 16: 22 hours iPhone 15: 20 hours iPhone 14: 20 hours iPhone 13: 19 hours iPhone 12: 17 hours iPhone 11: 17 hours…

So the video test is done with the video streaming over cellular data? Otherwise what would a video playback time spec have to do with the efficiency of the cellular radio?

I am wondering exactly the same. Maybe the standby costs? The chip needs to always have power to be able to receive the radio waves, it uses less power in that way but still quite a bit, I guess.

The surprise is how much power that is. It's either that or misleading marketing. I know Apple struggled to make this modem, so maybe it's still not great when it comes to standby power consumption. Since it's Apple we will only know after quite a bit of independent testing...

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by nunez »

abnercoimbre wrote: post #342
thebigspacefuck wrote: post #244

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Never felt that way about my 13 mini

Do you still own it? I've kept my 13 mini so far, but I hope the browsing or app experience doesn't degrade anytime soon (battery's still great.)

I have two (personal and work); browsing websites is fine in a pinch, but it's not nearly as fast as the iPhone 16 Pro that's in my drawer right now and I run into more Safari crashes than before. (I blame the modern web for that, not the phone.)

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Post by nunez »

avs733 wrote: post #280
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #201

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I am still using my 13 Mini. I got it, because I knew that it would be the last Mini Apple does. I plan to use it, until I need to charge the battery every 15 minutes.

I have a 13 mini that is hanging on by a thread and you will pry it from my hand (because I can actually hold onto it). I'm actually considering finding a refub because I prefer my old-fashioned artillery to the 6.1". The larger phones barely fit in pockets, fit poorly in running packs/biking gear and are just generally inconvienient for being active with them.

Refurbs are out there. I got two a few months ago. Battery health on both is around 85% though.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by walterbell »

asdff wrote: post #422
Etheryte wrote: post #198

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If they can standardize their whole lineup around two sizes, regular and max, then I think it will be a very hard sell to add extra work and complexity for the production lines for a smaller size that sells both lower volumes and lower price. Don't get me wrong, I love the Mini and have one right now, but from a business management perspective I can totally see how getting rid of it makes sense. Another aspect that I…

Battery life deteriorating is only a pain point because they make it so users can't trivially service the battery themselves. It is amazing seeing the walk back over the years from sensible affordances to the consumer to binning those features behind expensive repairs. I still remember my ibook where you could pop out the keyboard with your fingers and pop out the battery with a dime. I remember when they released th…

EU mandate for removable batteries will restore lost flexibility.

Even repair/replace is improving, with new aftermarket storage upgrades for Macbooks.

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