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To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by brandonagr2 »

stevage wrote: post #310
musikele wrote: post #165

Let's remove Musk from the equation, because you can like or (most probably) hate him, but I own a Tesla and I have the opposite experience. Everything worked out of the box. Just one piece of hardware started to fail (the charger plug making some noise) and they changed it in warranty. First: has the author tried a tesla before buying one? I'd never buy a car without trying it. Because comparing it to a Clio just be…

>Let's remove Musk from the equation, because you can like or (most probably) hate him OP doesn't make any implication about Musk at all, his name is only mentioned in passing. >I own a Tesla and I have the opposite experience. This is not a useful contribution. Obviously there are many satisfied Tesla customers. No one doubts this. The point of an article like this is to bring to light just how bad a Tesla experienc…

You are replying to an anecdotal blog post to say that a comment that is just an anecdote is not a useful contribution?

You think it's useful to have a blog post to reveal the shocking truth that mass manufactured products aren't 100% reliable? A lemon could be produced by any auto manufacturer and the customer could have the same experience

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by lostlogin »

decimalenough wrote: post #367
walkingthisquai wrote: post #331

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's supporting the AFD in Germany among others. For a 5 min overview see here: https://youtu.be/NjWl_RNDMSA

AFD is indeed a far-right party and the optics of Musk supporting it are to put it mildly bizarre, but it is also one of the largest political parties in Germany, not a "Nazi organization". They advocate halting immigration, not genocide.

The AfD goes beyond just opposing immigration and they struggle to shake their Nazi links. Talks of deporting immigrants, getting into minimising SS culpability for Nazi crimes, use of Nazi slogans, links to convicted Nazis and banned Nazi parties.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx88nwy934go

https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/dangerous-liais...

https://www.politico.eu/article/hidden-nazi-heritage-germany...

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by Diti »

walkingthisquai wrote: post #423
decimalenough wrote: post #367

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AFD is indeed a far-right party and the optics of Musk supporting it are to put it mildly bizarre, but it is also one of the largest political parties in Germany, not a "Nazi organization". They advocate halting immigration, not genocide.

Sure, I just wanted to share some info on far-right/neo-nazi related people and orgs that Musk is linked to, as parent didn't seem to be aware.

Thank you for the links (you, and the person who replied to you)!

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by InDubioProRubio »

rzzzt wrote: post #130
InDubioProRubio wrote: post #80

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All software is like its makers full of attention-whoring. Its a nasty side-effect of the "identify with your work" ethics. Thus i propose a new job, the ux-castrator. His only job, is to traverse the software and excise out tumorous attention hogging growths and limitations based upon thee. Back to the chasm from which you came daemon, for the user needs not see you, know you, be aware of you and your works. You are…

The "Use feature ABC? Yes/Not now" dialog that shows up day by day until users click "Yes" increased usage of ABC by a significant amount!

Chat GPT i want you to play user on any App i start, click all the dark pattern buttons and notifications. Pretend to be interested. Fill out the surveys. Then present the app without the cruft.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by huijzer »

mschuster91 wrote: post #259
coldtea wrote: post #101

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> I also have a severe dislike of the Tesla updating process. There being an "updating process" is already a huge red flag for a car.

Better than shitty software that, say, has serious issues with stuff as simple as connecting a phone via Bluetooth, and can't be upgraded on your own at all, no, it has to be done at an authorised dealership.

Oh yeah that’s the other thing. The software still has multiple bugs. But in general I appreciate the updates. I just wish the update process to be (much) easier. I have sometimes been sitting an hour at the dealer at night just to download the update. Feels like a massive waste of time IMO. I bought the car so that it can provide service for me not the other way around.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by [deleted] »

gcanyon wrote: post #394
decimalenough wrote: post #103

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No, it is objectively not "horrible" to drive, the Model Y was the world's best selling car two years in a row for a reason. But OP has clearly received a lemon, and Tesla service has a well-deserved reputation for being extremely slow when they need to fix any non-trivial issue. And in the OP's case buying the car in a country with no official Tesla presence is making things even worse.

> the world's best selling car two years in a row cite?

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Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by zoover2020 »

starbugs wrote: post #440
wesselbindt wrote: post #425

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I haven't. Could we fast forward to the part where you explain why you think it's not a good proxy measure?

If you translate the article and read it, you will find that there are a lot of reported issues with the headlights. It is hard to find exact information on the actual issue in detail, but I'd suspect it's about the calibration of the headlights in most cases. That's a minor issue and calling it a reliability problem doesn't seem accurate. Also quite conveniently, they don't really mention that Teslas have significan…

Thanks for bringing this to light. The days of objective discussions are over unfortunately, even on HN. Too much political stuff.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by zoover2020 »

huijzer wrote: post #456
mschuster91 wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Better than shitty software that, say, has serious issues with stuff as simple as connecting a phone via Bluetooth, and can't be upgraded on your own at all, no, it has to be done at an authorised dealership.

Oh yeah that’s the other thing. The software still has multiple bugs. But in general I appreciate the updates. I just wish the update process to be (much) easier. I have sometimes been sitting an hour at the dealer at night just to download the update. Feels like a massive waste of time IMO. I bought the car so that it can provide service for me not the other way around.

Ironically, have you tried any modern vehicle with good software? I can install updates at any point in time as long as they're downloaded through my, uh, Tesla app.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by buzzardbait »

lnsru wrote: post #76

I stoped reading when the writer admitted, that he bought a Tesla in a country without official dealership. Common sense tells me not to do this. That’s the situation when EU consumer laws start failing. That’s very brave, but not clever move at all!!! Having service center 300 miles away is too far. It’s not lot of statistics, but I know cases where guys needed replacement parts before new other brand car reached 50…

He also bought it without test driving one. Not the best judgment. Now I love my Tesla as much as when I bought it 3 years ago, but with it being my first EV I treaded as carefully as I could. I booked multiple test drives for the Tesla as well as for other EV brands before taking the plunge.
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