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Post by worksonmine »

elevatedastalt wrote: post #246
mmaunder wrote: post #225

The amount of vitriol in these comments is the really surprising data. I've seen the same on Twitter. I can only put it down to the financial pain DeepSeek inflicted on many US retail investors by wiping almost $700 billion off NVidia's stock price. I think a lot of folks didn't see it coming and it hurt them right where it matters most: In the wallet. The anger out there is very real.

In whose hands do you think your personal data is more secure? Google or DeepSeek?

Do we have to choose? I'm doing fine without either.

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Post by TacticalCoder »

jvansc wrote: post #62

This is probably an incredibly stupid, off-topic question, but why are their database schemas and logs in English? Like, when a DeepSeek dev uses these systems as intended, would they also be seeing the columns, keys, etc. in English? Is there usually a translation step involved? Or do devs around the world just have to bite the bullet and learn enough English to be able to use the majority of tools? I'm realizing no…

> Or do devs around the world just have to bite the bullet and learn enough English to be able to use the majority of tools?

That.

There's also a huge mental switching context cost when you try to have code mixing, say, french and english together:

    size_t taille;
    site_t taille_domaine;
vs:

    size_t length;
    size_t domain_length;
Hardly anyone does the former. It's simply not a thing. I mean: sure, there are the odd projects that'll be exceptions.

But we pretty much all name our functions/methods/variables/etc. and write our comments in english.

FWIW when I code I actually both think and count in english.

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Post by ceejayoz »

SahAssar wrote: post #383
ceejayoz wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Private networking for internal things like databases has been the standard best practice for a long, long time.

Safe default configuration has been the standard practice for even longer.

I’m all for both.

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Post by throwaway1053 »

stratocumulus0 wrote: post #358
0xDEAFBEAD wrote: post #346

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Isn't it true that schoolboys in many countries would learn Latin 100+ years ago? I suppose it would've been used sometimes in international communication?

100+ years is still pretty recent. The immediate predecessor to English as a world language was French. Matter of fact, my country has only dropped French translations from its passport with the most recent design update a decade ago or so. Latin would have been used pre-Renaissance. Our grandparents might have still had to learn it as a part of an educated person's toolkit, but it was long not intended for communica…

> The immediate predecessor to English as a world language was French

From what I remember, there was a divide between Catholicism and Protestantism, where some of the smaller countries that followed Protestantism used German as a common language due to its origins. I think knowledge of German in Norway was something that was expected of students attending the universities until the mid 1900s (due to geopolitical changes)

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Post by denysvitali »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #357
denysvitali wrote: post #144

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In the wild I've seen a company returning a JSON key "ankunftTime" in one of their APIs

Google tells me that "ankunft" means arrival in German. Is that correct?

Yes, and this is the context: https://github.com/denysvitali/sbb-api-rs/blob/master/src/mo...

Literally the arrival time of the train

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Post by brandonmenc »

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #442
ninetyninenine wrote: post #428

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No it’s from a book called design patterns. It forever influenced a huge number of American programmers to think about programming in a very specific way following very specific patterns. I’m working for a company that’s doing things in typescript using IOC and dependency injection everywhere. It pervades the minds of Americans such that they walk and talk like a parrot parroting that book. What Americans don’t reali…

> No it’s from a book called design patterns I think you will find most Java programmers were using these patterns before they came across the book. The language naturally leads you in that direction. The book just put a name on them.

The book was published in 1994 with examples in C++ and Smalltalk.

Java was released in 1995.

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Post by nakeru »

blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #385
forgetfulness wrote: post #366

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Your impassionate argument in favor of an ethnic cleansing with bombs, starvation and lack of sanitation lies in stark contrast to this outrage about the Uyghurs' culture being erased with development and draconian imprisonment for suspected extremism, while at the same time, the West Bank was reduced to a patchwork of ghettos with draconian checkpoints where life is cheap if you are suspected to be an extremist. On…

I think you're raising an important point that I acknowledge, and I need to process that more. But my immediate thought is to note that the two situations are very different to me. Uyghurs are indigenous to Xinjiang (more than anyone else), and Islamic Arabs in Gaza or the West Bank are not indigenous to the region around Israel (Jewish people are, while Gaza's residents are outsiders since Islamic Arabs aren't indig…

What you call "Islamic Arabs" makes no sense. They are as native as the Jewish people. Mostly because they're nor more or less "Arab" than the Jewish people. Religion is what separates them, not race. Also, your argument ignores time. Even it it were true, for how many centuries have these "Islamic Arabs" been there? Why are they any less "from there" than Jewish people?

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Post by ninetyninenine »

brandonmenc wrote: post #456
tonyedgecombe wrote: post #442

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> No it’s from a book called design patterns I think you will find most Java programmers were using these patterns before they came across the book. The language naturally leads you in that direction. The book just put a name on them.

The book was published in 1994 with examples in C++ and Smalltalk. Java was released in 1995.

Yes oop was and still is religiously followed by many. But during that time it was new and thought of as revolutionary.

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Post by DiggyJohnson »

tadfisher wrote: post #367
Twirrim wrote: post #219

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> Not everything changes though - gold plating thickness is measured by the micro-inch Considering how much manufacturing and science etc. has fully migrated to metric, even in the US, this seems bizarre to me.

Like in machining, there's a long history of measuring everything in "thou" (micro-inch sounds proleptic to me, and you'll see "mil" used in the EDA space). All the tooling uses it, standardized components use it (I can drop a 74-series TTL chip from the 1970s in a modern board), and everyone learns it when they start using EDA. Recently there has been a shift to metric in EDA software, so you'll see often see multip…

Not every day these days do I encounter a new word: proleptic.

1 the anticipation and answering of possible objections in rhetorical speech.

2 the representation of a thing as existing before it actually does or did so, as in he was a dead man when he entered. Compare with analepsis: the destruction of the Vendôme Column and his part in it are foreshadowed in moments of haunting prolepsis.

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Post by TeaBrain »

blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #308
tasty_freeze wrote: post #289

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If you rat out the government doing unconstitutional things, you lose your citizenship.

Did Snowden lose his citizenship? No. The US cannot revoke his citizenship per its laws. He fled to Russia and took an oath of citizenship there in 2022. But he didn’t renounce his US citizenship either.

What the above user is thinking of is how Snowden's passport validity was reportedly revoked in 2013, right after he had landed in Moscow.
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