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Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Re: Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Post by justincormack »

cogman10 wrote: post #330
jbarrow wrote: post #288

The increasing TDP trend is going crazy for the top-tier consumer cards: 3090 - 350W 3090 Ti - 450W 4090 - 450W 5090 - 575W 3x3090 (1050W) is less than 2x5090 (1150W), plus you get 72GB of VRAM instead of 64GB, if you can find a motherboard that supports 3 massive cards or good enough risers (apparently near impossible?).

What I really don't like about it is low power GPUs appear to be a thing of the past essentially. An APU is the closest you'll come to that which is really somewhat unfortunate as the thermal budget for an APU is much tighter than it has to be for a GPU. There is no 75W modern GPU on the market.

the closest is the L4 https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/data-center/l4/ but its a bit weird.

Re: Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Post by moondev »

cogman10 wrote: post #330
jbarrow wrote: post #288

The increasing TDP trend is going crazy for the top-tier consumer cards: 3090 - 350W 3090 Ti - 450W 4090 - 450W 5090 - 575W 3x3090 (1050W) is less than 2x5090 (1150W), plus you get 72GB of VRAM instead of 64GB, if you can find a motherboard that supports 3 massive cards or good enough risers (apparently near impossible?).

What I really don't like about it is low power GPUs appear to be a thing of the past essentially. An APU is the closest you'll come to that which is really somewhat unfortunate as the thermal budget for an APU is much tighter than it has to be for a GPU. There is no 75W modern GPU on the market.

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Re: Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Post by moondev »

justincormack wrote: post #451
cogman10 wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I really don't like about it is low power GPUs appear to be a thing of the past essentially. An APU is the closest you'll come to that which is really somewhat unfortunate as the thermal budget for an APU is much tighter than it has to be for a GPU. There is no 75W modern GPU on the market.

the closest is the L4 https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/data-center/l4/ but its a bit weird.

RTX A4000 has an actual display output

Re: Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Post by satvikpendem »

Kelteseth wrote: post #268
voidUpdate wrote: post #198

Ooo, that means its probably time for me to get a used 2080, or maybe even a 3080 if I'm feeling special

Why not go for AMD? I just got a 7900XTX for 850 euros, it runs ollama or comfyUI via WSl2 quite nicely.

DLSS is good and keeps improving, as with DLSS 4 where most of the features are compatible with even the 2000 series cards. AMD does not have the same software feature set to justify a purchase.

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Post by int_19h »

necheffa wrote: post #245
kllrnohj wrote: post #150

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> There are plenty of AAA games released last years that you can do 4K at 60fps with a RTX 3090 for example. Not when you turn on ray tracing. Also 60fps is pretty low, certainly isn't "high fps" anyway

> Also 60fps is pretty low, certainly isn't "high fps" anyway Uhhhhhmmmmmm....what are you smoking? Almost no one is playing competitive shooters and such at 4k. For those games you play at 1080p and turn off lots of eye candy so you can get super high frame rates because that does actually give you an edge. People playing at 4k are doing immersive story driven games and consistent 60fps is perfectly fine for that, y…

You seem to be assuming that the only two buckets are "story-driven single player" and "PvP multiplayer", but online co-op is also pretty big these days. FWIW I play online co-op shooters at 4K 60fps myself, but I can see why people might prefer higher frame rates.

Re: Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Post by favorited »

matja wrote: post #278
ryao wrote: post #75

The most interesting news is that the 5090 Founders' Edition is a 2-slot card according to Nvidia's website: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/50-serie... When was the last time Nvidia made a high end GeForce card use only 2 slots?

The integrator decides the form factor, not NVIDIA, and there were a few 2-slot 3080's with blower coolers. Technically water-cooled 40xx's can be 2-slot also but that's cheating.

40-series water blocks can even be single slot: https://shop.alphacool.com/en/shop/gpu-water-cooling/nvidia/...

Re: Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Post by porphyra »

jbarrow wrote: post #288

The increasing TDP trend is going crazy for the top-tier consumer cards: 3090 - 350W 3090 Ti - 450W 4090 - 450W 5090 - 575W 3x3090 (1050W) is less than 2x5090 (1150W), plus you get 72GB of VRAM instead of 64GB, if you can find a motherboard that supports 3 massive cards or good enough risers (apparently near impossible?).

soon you'll need to plug your PC into the 240 V dryer outlet lmao

(with the suggested 1000 W PSU for the current gen, it's quite conceivable that at this rate of increase soon we'll run into the maximum of around 1600 W from a typical 110 V outlet on a 15 A circuit)

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Post by int_19h »

ErneX wrote: post #241
martiuk wrote: post #146

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> Seems kinda silly to make a 4K video card when ... nobody on the planet has a 4K screen. Someone else probably said that years ago when everyone was rocking 1080/1440p screens.

If you look at the Steam hardware survey you’ll find the majority of gamers are still rocking 1080p/1440p displays. What gamers look for is more framerate not particularly resolution. Most new gaming monitors are focusing on high refresh rates. 8K feels like a waste of compute for a very diminished return compared to 4K. I think 8K only makes sense when dealing with huge displays, I’m talking beyond 83 inches, we are…

Gaming aside, 4K is desirable even on Which would then imply that you don't need a display as big as 83" to see the benefits from 8K. Still, we're talking about very large panels here, of the kind that wouldn't even fit many computer desks, so yeah...

Re: Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Post by int_19h »

williamDafoe wrote: post #395
nullandvoid wrote: post #176

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Many people are running 4k resolution now, and a 4080 struggles to to break 100 frames in many current games maxed (never-mind future titles) - therefore there's plenty of a market with gamers and the 5x series (myself included) who are looking for closer to 4090 performance at a non obscene price.

This is just absolutely false, Steam says that 4.21% of users play at 4K. The number of users that play at higher than 1440p is only 10.61%. So you are wrong, simply wrong.

This is a chicken and egg thing, though - people don't play at 4K because it requires spending a lot of $$$ on top-of-the-line GPU, not because they don't want to.

Re: Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Post by ewild »

alekratz wrote: post #397
edm0nd wrote: post #391

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>A 3090 is $1000 right now. Not really worth it if you can get a 5090 for $1,999

If you can get a 5090 for that price, I'll eat my hat. scalpers with their armies of bots will buy them all before you get a chance.

it is absurdly easy to get a 5090 on launch. ive gotten their flagship from their website FE every single launch without fail. from 2080 to 3090 to 4090
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