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Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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OT: I’m not entirely sure why, but "agentic" sets my teeth on edge. I don't mind the concept, but the word itself has that hollow, buzzwordy flavor I associate with overblown LinkedIn jargon, particularly as it is not actually in the dictionary...unlike perfectly serviceable entries such as "versatile", "multifaceted" or "autonomous"

agentic obviously means "not gentic" and gent is from the Latin for "people".

agentic == not people.

Quite sensible, really.

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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> Remains to be seen how well they will be able to productize and market The challenge is trust. Google is one of the leaders in AI and are home to incredibly talented developers. But they also have an incredibly bad track record of supporting their products. It's hard to justify committing developers and money to a product when there's a good chance you'll just have to pivot again once they get bored. Say what you w…

> they also have an incredibly bad track record of supporting their products Incredibly bad track record of supporting products that don't grow . I'm not saying this to defend Google, I'm still (perhaps unreasonably) angry because of Reader, it's just that there is a pattern and AI isn't likely to fit that for a long while.

> Incredibly bad track record of supporting products that don't grow. [...] AI isn't likely to fit that for a long while.

Have you seen Google Bard anywhere recently? Me neither :)

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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Is there a guide on how to do that?

For building mcp server? The official docs do a great job https://modelcontextprotocol.io/introduction My own mcp server could be an inspiration on Mac. It's based on pexpect to enable repl session and has some tricks to prevent bad commands. https://github.com/rusiaaman/wcgw However, I recommend creating one with your own customised prompts and tools for maximum benefit.

Love the name of your mcp server! What indeed.

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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I got so hopefuly by your comment I showed it my current bug that I'm working on, I even prepared everything first with my github issue, the relevant code, the terminal with the failing tests, and I pasted it the full contents of the file and explained carefully what I wanted to achieve. As I was doing this, it repeated back to me everything I said, saying things like "if I understand correctly you're showing me a fi…

You just rediscovered that LLMs become much stupider when using images as input. I think that has been already shown for gpt-4 as well.

This is news to me. Any good examples of this outside of the above?

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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https://aistudio.google.com/live is by far the coolest thing here. You can just go there and share your screen or camera and have a running live voice conversation with Gemini about anything you're looking at. As much as you want, for free. I just tried having it teach me how to use Blender. It seems like it could actually be super helpful for beginners, as it has decent knowledge of the toolbars and keyboard shortcu…

I got so hopefuly by your comment I showed it my current bug that I'm working on, I even prepared everything first with my github issue, the relevant code, the terminal with the failing tests, and I pasted it the full contents of the file and explained carefully what I wanted to achieve. As I was doing this, it repeated back to me everything I said, saying things like "if I understand correctly you're showing me a fi…

Not sure this is an AI limitation. I think you'd be better off here with the Gemini Code Assist plugin in VS Code rather than that. Sounds like the AI is provided with unstructured information compared to an actual code base.

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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https://aistudio.google.com/live is by far the coolest thing here. You can just go there and share your screen or camera and have a running live voice conversation with Gemini about anything you're looking at. As much as you want, for free. I just tried having it teach me how to use Blender. It seems like it could actually be super helpful for beginners, as it has decent knowledge of the toolbars and keyboard shortcu…

I got so hopefuly by your comment I showed it my current bug that I'm working on, I even prepared everything first with my github issue, the relevant code, the terminal with the failing tests, and I pasted it the full contents of the file and explained carefully what I wanted to achieve. As I was doing this, it repeated back to me everything I said, saying things like "if I understand correctly you're showing me a fi…

> foo dot see see pee

Well there's your problem!

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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https://aistudio.google.com/live is by far the coolest thing here. You can just go there and share your screen or camera and have a running live voice conversation with Gemini about anything you're looking at. As much as you want, for free. I just tried having it teach me how to use Blender. It seems like it could actually be super helpful for beginners, as it has decent knowledge of the toolbars and keyboard shortcu…

This is great! I viscerally dislike the "we're going to do art for you so you don't have to... even if you want to..." side of AI, but learning to use the tools to get the satisfaction of making it yourself is not easy! After 2 decades of working with 2D art and code separately, learning 3D stuff (if you include things like the complex and counterintuitive data flow of simulations in Houdini and the like) was as or more difficult than learning to code. Beyond that, taking classes is f'ing expensive, and more of that money goes to educational institutions than the teachers themselves. Obviously, getting beyond the basics for things that require experienced critique are just going to need human understanding, but for the base technical stuff, this is fantastic.

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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That won't help. Their TOS and policies are vague enough that they can terminate all accounts you own (under "Use of multiple accounts for abuse" for instance).

To be fair, I believe this is reserved for things like fighting fraud.

I used to be "thepimp@hotmail.com" in the early days of Hotmail, of course I was also a 6th grader (true story). One day they unceremoniously closed my account without any possibility to recover mails.

That day I learned an important lesson: pimpin' ain't easy.

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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https://aistudio.google.com/live is by far the coolest thing here. You can just go there and share your screen or camera and have a running live voice conversation with Gemini about anything you're looking at. As much as you want, for free. I just tried having it teach me how to use Blender. It seems like it could actually be super helpful for beginners, as it has decent knowledge of the toolbars and keyboard shortcu…

THIS is the thing I'm excited for with AI. I'm someone that becomes about 5x more productive when I have a person watching or just checking in on me (even if they're just hovering there). Having AI to basically be that "parent" to kick me into gear would be so helpful. 90% of the time my problems are because I need someone to help keep the gears turning for me, but there isn't always someone available. This has the p…

Your "parent" kicked you into gear because you have an emotional bond with them. A stranger might cause your guards to go up if you do not respect them as with wisdom. So too may go an AI.

Re: Gemini 2.0: our new AI model for the agentic era

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You just rediscovered that LLMs become much stupider when using images as input. I think that has been already shown for gpt-4 as well.

This is news to me. Any good examples of this outside of the above?

Vision language models are blind (192 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40926734
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