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What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by datadrivenangel »

fhub wrote: post #434

Keeping a lot of the incriminating evidence on him (including, it seems, the jacket) can't be a careless mistake (in my opinion). So what are some of the possible reasons? - He committed the crime and had another target in mind - He committed the crime and really didn't think he'd get away with it so he kept it to keep some unknown options open. - He committed the crime and didn't want any doubt that he was guilty wh…

- He wasn't thinking clearly and didn't really have much of a post shooting plan outside of getting out of NYC

Seems pretty likely that this was the case. Getting away from the site of the crime is challenging enough!

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Post by insane_dreamer »

iambateman wrote: post #382

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> Rule of law is the foundation for society and murdering someone is not the answer.

on the other hand, the US government seems to have no problem murdering people in other countries who it perceives to be a threat to its geopolitical aspirations, either directly, or indirectly ("acceptable collateral damage")

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Post by grandmczeb »

matrix87 wrote: post #368

I don't know if this has been posted already, but here is his manifesto https://archive.is/2024.12.09-230659/https://breloomlegacy.s... Sounds like both he and his mother were suffering from chronic pain and UHC dicked them around and refused to act in good faith

This is an extremely obvious fake.

Here’s a description of the actual manifesto from the NYT:

> The 262-word handwritten manifesto that the police found on Luigi Mangione begins with the writer appearing to take responsibility for the murder, according to a senior law enforcement official who saw the document. It notes that as UnitedHealthcare’s market capitalization has grown, American life expectancy has not. “To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn’t working with anyone,” he wrote. The note condemns companies that “continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allowed them to get away with it.”

> The handwritten manifesto found on Mangione contained the passages “These parasites had it coming” and “I do apologize for any strife and trauma, but it had to be done,” according to a senior law enforcement official who saw the document.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/09/nyregion/unitedhealt...

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Post by nozzlegear »

fhub wrote: post #434

Keeping a lot of the incriminating evidence on him (including, it seems, the jacket) can't be a careless mistake (in my opinion). So what are some of the possible reasons? - He committed the crime and had another target in mind - He committed the crime and really didn't think he'd get away with it so he kept it to keep some unknown options open. - He committed the crime and didn't want any doubt that he was guilty wh…

You're missing one of the most obvious reasons: he might not be as smart or as clever as the internet's romanticized version of the assassin.

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

xcrunner529 wrote: post #442
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #436

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That seems quite unfair. The NYPD was the one that located multiple pictures of the suspect, and I'm assuming did a good bit of detective work to ensure the pictures they released actually were of the suspect in question. Of course at some point after releasing photos of the suspect one would anticipate that someone who recognized them would turn them in.

So, eyes like every human being has?

Let me guess, you're the type of developer that says "Hah, it's crazy they have so many people, I could code up that project in a weekend!!"

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Post by dang »

throwaway314155 wrote: post #413

Why not use the original title ("Luigi Mangione: What we know about CEO shooting suspect")? Why the need for sensationalism over his status as a software engineer?

We've reverted it now. (Submitted title was "Software developer arrested in connection with murder of healthcare executive")

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Post by Uptrenda »

I find that the gun and silencer were 3D printed really quite fascinating (also maybe why people were saying the gun jammed -- less reliable?) I knew you could 3D print guns (not sure if the whole thing can be 3D printed.) But it would seem that most parts (including the ammo) can be easily moved. That would make it trivial to bypass firearm restrictions the world over? Though I imagine getting caught with a ghost gun would ruin your life.

Note: I am a law abiding citizen, don't raid me, lol...

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by nozzlegear »

xcrunner529 wrote: post #442
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #436

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That seems quite unfair. The NYPD was the one that located multiple pictures of the suspect, and I'm assuming did a good bit of detective work to ensure the pictures they released actually were of the suspect in question. Of course at some point after releasing photos of the suspect one would anticipate that someone who recognized them would turn them in.

So, eyes like every human being has?

Did you intentionally skip over this part of their comment?

> did a good bit of detective work to ensure the pictures they released actually were of the suspect in question

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by autoexec »

shiroiushi wrote: post #430
autoexec wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm looking for different paths than murder to accomplish this. It seems like our entire system has been intentionally designed and refined over centuries specifically to ensure that nothing short of radical, even violent, acts will have any meaningful impact on those in power. Corporations in particular have insulated themselves from any accountability whatsoever and there are literal serial killers who knowingly…

>Corporations in particular have insulated themselves from any accountability whatsoever and there are literal serial killers who knowingly sold products and took actions that they knew would kill people who have never and will never see a single day behind bars. Exactly: look at the people behind the Ford Pinto (with the exploding gas tank), and more recently the people behind the Boeing 737MAX.

Philip Morris, DuPont, Philips Respironics, Purdue Pharma, Johnson & Johnson, Nestlé, the list just goes on and on.

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Post by bdangubic »

Uptrenda wrote: post #457

I find that the gun and silencer were 3D printed really quite fascinating (also maybe why people were saying the gun jammed -- less reliable?) I knew you could 3D print guns (not sure if the whole thing can be 3D printed.) But it would seem that most parts (including the ammo) can be easily moved. That would make it trivial to bypass firearm restrictions the world over? Though I imagine getting caught with a ghost gu…

whether or not it would ruin your life largely depends on your skin color
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