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Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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Post by 0x073 »

satvikpendem wrote: post #421
skeeter2020 wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first apps I need to replace on any new windows machine (after installing FF) are Paint, Notepad, Photo/Image viewer and MediaPlayer . The funny thing is their replacements are all ancient as well, and still awesome because they've been thoughtfully upgraded over the years without destroying their conceptual integrity, or they've just been "done" for decades. Paint.Net (v3), Notepad++, IrfanViewer, Foobar2000 & V…

I never understood the need for Notepad++. If I want to edit text quickly, notepad works fine, maybe I'll use vim or something if needed. If I want to view code, again vim works fine, and maybe VSCode if I know I'll be actively working on it. I don't see the usecase for Notepad++ personally speaking.

I dont trust notepad to edit configs, \n is no problem anymore but there is always a way to corrupt files with notepad.

Never had this issues for notepad++.

For text it's fine.

Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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Post by llm_nerd »

nitwit005 wrote: post #450
llm_nerd wrote: post #271

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>If AI is so powerful why don’t we see a massive productivity spike around the globe? We overestimate the short term effects and underestimate the long term effects (Amara's law). We're currently in the trough of disillusionment where people are running around saying that AI failed, was overblown, etc, while people like me are working with corporations to completely change how they operate, to an outrageous efficienc…

It can't simultaneously not show up in efficiency data, and provide an "outrageous efficiency boost".

What imaginary "efficiency data" are you citing? Ignoring that US "productivity" data has been skyrocketing, when loads of large orgs are laying off loads of people and specifically citing it as the reason, maybe it is actually starting to have an impact?

Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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Post by cmehdy »

satvikpendem wrote: post #421
skeeter2020 wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first apps I need to replace on any new windows machine (after installing FF) are Paint, Notepad, Photo/Image viewer and MediaPlayer . The funny thing is their replacements are all ancient as well, and still awesome because they've been thoughtfully upgraded over the years without destroying their conceptual integrity, or they've just been "done" for decades. Paint.Net (v3), Notepad++, IrfanViewer, Foobar2000 & V…

I never understood the need for Notepad++. If I want to edit text quickly, notepad works fine, maybe I'll use vim or something if needed. If I want to view code, again vim works fine, and maybe VSCode if I know I'll be actively working on it. I don't see the usecase for Notepad++ personally speaking.

Off the top of my head:

- open a file for editing, realize you needed admin rights, npp allows you to relaunch with escalation and keeping the change in memory

- find all gives you a list of items, a count of them, and quick preview of each

- supports the editorconfig format, so inherits rules you've designed for your other IDEs

- colors

- allows tail -f (the eye icon)

- can be extended with plugins (unlike notepad) although the out of the box works well enough for most (unlike vsc)

- less bloated than electron apps, when comparing with any vscode setup you would use for larger developments

- tracks which open files have had a change, lets you choose if you want to reload the file (update contents displayed without reopening the app) or not (helps you save what you're seeing before verifying what might have replaced it)

- lets you see and change encoding very easily

There's more, but I just picked a few things I find useful every day when I need to deal with many windows machines at a midsized company.

Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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Post by evoke4908 »

JohnFen wrote: post #430
pxoe wrote: post #389

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tabs and autosave are pretty essential features. they make notepad a single window app (no need to fiddle with a bunch of windows) and easy to open and close while keeping all tabs/files open (no need to save every file on exit, no need to reopen every file). it improves the usefulness of previous notepad, which was clunky to use for lack of those features and prone to data loss (no autosave, duh), which would actual…

> tabs and autosave are pretty essential features Not for me. Tabs and autosave are features I absolutely don't want in Notepad. The entire value of Notepad to me is that it's simple and basic. The tabs are irritating, but at least I can pretend the tab bar doesn't exist (although I wish I could hide it), and autosave as well as restoring the last document can be disabled. But even having to start configuring Notepad…

Notepad was and always had been a simple and light application for viewing raw text files. Text editing is secondary and justifiably quite limited. If you wanted a real text editor you used Wordpad.

Microsoft has absolutely no concept of the value that anyone gets out of anything they make. The one and only question they seem capable of asking is "how can we monetize this?"

Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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Post by nitwit005 »

llm_nerd wrote: post #452
nitwit005 wrote: post #450

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It can't simultaneously not show up in efficiency data, and provide an "outrageous efficiency boost".

What imaginary "efficiency data" are you citing? Ignoring that US "productivity" data has been skyrocketing, when loads of large orgs are laying off loads of people and specifically citing it as the reason, maybe it is actually starting to have an impact?

If it is causing a huge gain in efficiency, it should be trivial to demonstrate with data. You're talking about "Amara's law", and "trough of disillusionment". None of that shit matters. Just share the data, and people will agree.

Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

deprecative wrote: post #12
DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #9

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Kinda defeats the point of “AI PCs” then…

You've got it reversed. AI PCs are just SPAs. You offload the workload to the client then send the resulting payload back.

> You've got it reversed. AI PCs are just SPAs.

Microsoft's "CoPilot PCs" scheme places a lot of emphasis on the hardware being powerful enough for locally-processed "AI" features and isn't about offloading everything (I suspect because they're starting to acknowledge that not everyone has a highly-reliable multi-megabit Internet connection).

Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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Post by ZoomZoomZoom »

chongli wrote: post #147
userbinator wrote: post #109

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I hated the tabs already. When I open Notepad I expect a clean slate.

I thought the whole point of the Windows taskbar was to give you tabs for all your windows? Why did they feel the need to add tabs again!

To answer seriously, because workflow is a tree. And the outer levels need task-specificity. Browser tabs need different display options and available actions from text editor tabs, etc.

A generic taskbar (Windows one included) is only passable for the root level of switching contexts (on *nix there's also couple levels below that: virtual consoles and virtual desktops of the DE).

Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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Post by pantulis »

nicce wrote: post #178
pantulis wrote: post #177

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Also traffic could be encrypted

Yes, it is TLS encrypted, but you can decrypt that. As far as I know, there isn't other encryption.

How would you go about decrypting that traffic? I guess some kind of proxy, but I would assume that Windows would use certificate pinning so as to avoid MITM attacks. Another option?

Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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Post by _smfg »

iknowstuff wrote: post #211
skeeter2020 wrote: post #171

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The first apps I need to replace on any new windows machine (after installing FF) are Paint, Notepad, Photo/Image viewer and MediaPlayer . The funny thing is their replacements are all ancient as well, and still awesome because they've been thoughtfully upgraded over the years without destroying their conceptual integrity, or they've just been "done" for decades. Paint.Net (v3), Notepad++, IrfanViewer, Foobar2000 & V…

My main OS is macOS but I use Windows for gaming. The reliance on crusty old ass applications like those on Windows is actually kinda depressing. Everything newer is garbage for various reasons, and everything old is ugly as hell. Macs have Pixelmator and Preview for images, Apple Notes is actually very decent for actual notes, Zed for nerdy text files, QuickTime/IINA for video (or hell even VLC looks much nicer than…

the lack of consistent UI experiences in windows was a thing that really bugged me and why I've never looked back after switching to MacOS

Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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Post by threesevenths »

WorldMaker wrote: post #441
lenkite wrote: post #411

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Maybe they need to rewrite their software stack in Rust now. For performance.

C# is working hard to be Rust-like in certain areas of performance. Part of Visual Studio's problem is that they can't yet take advantage of it in some key areas because they are still dependent on the Legacy Framework and Legacy WPF and have to migrate to modern .NET.

Cold boot perf is a good yard stick but it’s not that important in your workflow. Except when it crashes. They really should work on that. Quality as a feature.
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