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Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by tqi »

j16sdiz wrote: post #445
tqi wrote: post #382

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This is complete science fiction / FUD. Amazon can't even stop showing you ads for vacuum cleaners after you buy a vacuum cleaner, you think they have the compute for something that sophisticated?

Not able to compute that won't stop them reselling or holding it. At some point it will leak, and available for sell to PI or someone will more personal interest on you

No one has the storage capacity necessary to store that much audio content, let alone video.

Furthermore, the incremental benefit over traditional ad targeting via search or web history is probably pretty marginal, and not nearly worth the effort/cost. All of these scenarios (Jake Jacobs' wife, Jeff Jone, Jennifer Smith) are already going to show up in a traditional search history, why would an ad company go through all that effort to get data they already have? This is real life not a Mission Impossible movie.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by brailsafe »

dagmx wrote: post #323
brailsafe wrote: post #291

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Still, are those temporary inconveniences so dull that you can't read a book or something? Why cling to a desperate need for hyper stimulation when you could just relax with a newspaper or book. Oh jeez, it's misty out, and I forgot my ridiculous VR goggles, guess I'll just be sad :(

Because other people might enjoy things other than books or newspapers? Seriously, is everyone on here so narcissistic that they can’t imagine other people want other things?

My comment, in retrospect, came across needlessly aggro and dismissive, and I apologize for that; the downvotes were justified and I don't know what frame of mind I was in. Your comment struck me as a complaint about circumstances though rather than interest, to which I'd say have at it, do what you want to do with the tech you want to do it with; I just personally can't relate to the temporary lack of novelty during a commute seeming like a sensible reason for spending so much on this particular kind of device that doesn't really seem to serve another purpose. A steam deck, iPad pro, portable gaming system perhaps, all kinds of others, but the AVP seems like a bit out of scope somehow. I personally bring along a Nintendo DS, or a book, or whatever else, but I'd kind of think if my commute was so sufficiently long and dull that I'd want something more substantial, I'd just really start looking into a much bigger change.

I've taken the train across the Canadian prairies, and my god is that dull, but I just chatted with people, did a bit on my laptop, looked out the window since there always is one, read, used my Gameboy. If I wanted to completely immerse myself in anything but the train experience, I'd just fly, it's cheaper anyway

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Post by crooked-v »

DidYaWipe wrote: post #420
Someone1234 wrote: post #255

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If you kept reading to understand the context of that image, you'd realize that it could be any size, but that you need to enable "partial virtual environment." That was the entire point of that chapter/image, to showcase the three different modes (full virtual, partial, and full pass-through with collision). I'm no fan of the AVP, but it is inane to post a comment on a picture from the article without taking the tim…

I've never seen anyone claim that you could maximize content to truly full-screen on these things. Can you?

Sure you can. Just increase the size of a virtual window to fill the entire avaiable field of view (110 degrees or so). It's basically the same effect as sitting in a close-to-the-front row of a theater.

There are VR headsets with wider FoV, but they're pretty bulky as of yet because of the limits of current costs-less-than-literally-$10,000-a-unit optics.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by crooked-v »

DidYaWipe wrote: post #408

Why does Apple insist on putting all the content into a little box? I want whatever I'm playing to FILL the viewing area. Likewise with trying to work, which is indeed another huge potential benefit to this thing as plane travel becomes more and more customer-hostile. Reviews I've read reported that it's tedious to try to work with the puny virtual Mac screen. Also, Apple's fear of I/O has crippled the Vision Pro. If…

> I want whatever I'm playing to FILL the viewing area.

There's literally a preset for "front row in a theater" when playing media.

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Post by crooked-v »

amiantos wrote: post #401
tqi wrote: post #384

> In fact, of all the screens and displays in my house, my Vision Pro is hands down the highest quality display that I own, so I very much look forward to watching visually compelling movies in it. How does a vision pro compare to a say 60 inch 4K tv, in terms of perceived sharpness (I get that it has more pixels, but they are closer to your eye and cover your whole field of view)? I owned an OG quest, and for me wat…

I have an LG OLED C1 65" and the Vision Pro movie experience is nearly the same as the TV, except that you have to deal with all the lens glare in the Vision Pro, which is a big downside. An upside is that films like Encanto are in 3D, which looks really good for Pixar/CGI movies and pretty garbage for every other movie I've tried in the headset (for me, real films with 3D look like paper cut outs layered over each o…

The easy way to mostly deal with the lens glare is use one of the background environments that's dim rather than black. It's the high contrast the entire time that really makes it visible.

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Post by rhcom2 »

sho_hn wrote: post #438
nox101 wrote: post #409

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Good for you. I can't sleep sitting on plane. The only times I've been able to to sleep is (1) getting a free upgrade to 1st class where I could lie down (2) a mostly empty plane where I could stretch out across three seats.

I couldn't sleep on planes my entire life until one year I did Europe-Korea 8 times and it became so routine it started working. The routine part, I think, is what took the "I won't sleep on this long flight" anxiety away somehow, because I started learning the rhythm of the flight. For example, there is no point to try and sleep until the initial meal is served, you'll just get woken up anyway. So now I just spend t…

Just curious how tall are you? At 6'3 I thought I'd never learn that skill.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by killjoywashere »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #343
drewg123 wrote: post #230

For air travel, I really like my Xreal Air glasses now that I have a newer iPhone 16pro. Just plug in the USB-C cable, and you have a virtual 60" screen in front of you which works perfectly for Netflix, etc. And they cost less than 10% of the cost of an AVP, and are not limited to 2-3 hours of battery life (they get power from the phone). Note that if you have an older (lightning) iPhone, don't bother with these. Th…

As I get older, a gin and tonic (or two) is what makes air travel more relaxing.

I write this while on a United IAD-SFO direct (a bit over 5 hours), sipping a scotch on the rocks.

I've gotten the AVP demo at Apple HQ 3 times now, twice before release day. I really like it, can't imagine dropping $5000 of my own cash on it. Maybe for V2. I had a similar reaction to the Airpods Max. V2 is here. Meh. In this case, my boss has indicated we can get a few for testing, but the check's still in the mail. I have a certified-for-actual-flight-training VR system next to my desk at the office and have used that more than anyone else in the office that I'm aware of. So despite some of the most compelling, hard, spatial problems on Earth, medicine and national defense - everything from protein docking to casualty evacuation in contested environments, I'm hanging tight for now.

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Post by runjake »

derefr wrote: post #392
JKCalhoun wrote: post #343

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As I get older, a gin and tonic (or two) is what makes air travel more relaxing.

Taking a flight as an opportunity to indulge in a moment of blissful idleness is great... on a three-hour flight. But on a 14-hour trans-continental flight, you've gotta have something to do. If nothing else, to distract you from how uncomfortable it is to be effectively confined to your seat + a few feet of narrow walkway for that long. That's more confined than a prison cell!

> a moment of blissful idleness

Popularly known as “raw dogging” or “barebacking” a flight, apparently.

https://www.gq.com/story/why-men-are-rawdogging-flights

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Post by zamadatix »

stevage wrote: post #442
zamadatix wrote: post #434

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Much of Europe to Japan, LAX to China or Australia, NYC to India or Japan (opposite directions). It's really quite common, you can check around by airport using this map with the duration filter set to 14+ https://www.flightconnections.com/flights-from-new-york-ewr

Yep, I live in Melbourne. It's the trans-continental bit I was querying.

Ah, good catch - I read right through that.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by AB1908 »

latentsea wrote: post #422
parhamn wrote: post #338

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Does such a thing exist that works for coding? Don't need the AR. My posture/back could use this for when I'm not working at my desk.

I work lying down using my Meta Quest 3 sometimes when my back gets sore. I love it.

Can you elaborate? Do you use Virtual Desktop or have something like termux and ssh in to a separate box?
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