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Re: "Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"

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When the hell will firefox have a decent profile manager?? It's the one thing that is preventing me from switching over. No, container tabs are NOT it.

It's not a feature I use, but if you launch with "firefox --ProfileManager" it pops up a profile selection window. Maybe that's in the ballpark of what you want? https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-...

The switching UI/UX is atrocious.

Re: "Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"

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It's worth noting that the maintenance of the "lite" version is at some nonzero risk of burnout for its developers, ironically in part due to Mozilla being unnecessarily hostile: https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/issues/197#issueco... discussed at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41707418 - and while there's no plan yet to discontinue the Chrome MV3 compatible version, there are a million ways that this c…

I imagine the focus of the developers will very quickly shift to Lite once Chrome flips the switch and 95% of uBO's user base disappears overnight. It might not be what they want, but such events have their own dynamic.

95% of the user base going away just sounds like less support work for gorhill. This isn't a VC-backed startup or ad platform that needs users to survive.

Re: "Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"

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I don't know if this is what you meant, but as an alternative to profile switching, there are Multi Account Containers [1]. It allows assigning a container to each tab, and the containers are isolated from each other. If you have an MS or Google account for both work and personal, you can open them at the same time in different tabs. [1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...

I'm using using multiple profiles when I want to have a different set of extensions, bookmarks and browsing history. Multi Account Containers help with none of that.

This same conversation plays out every time someone mentions profile switching that is responded with "container tabs".

Re: "Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"

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Chrome to Firefox is a relatively easy switch, especially for those that don’t depend on Google sync. The main sources of friction for me were the lack of a good profile switching UI (solved with a browser extension that mimics the Chrome menu), and weird security requirements for homemade extensions (IIRC if you want to have the extension persist after restarting Firefox, you need to sign the extension, which is a p…

Note that Firefox profile management is getting an overhaul right now, including an easy profile switching UI. I'm not sure when it will be landing in release, but it is being actively built!

Which bugzilla # is it. I can only find decades old requests for such a feature that are closed as WONTFIX.

Re: "Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"

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Brave is an odd one. They've publicly stated[1] they plan to support parts of Manifest v2 for a handful of popular addons (uBlock Origin included) by making limited patches, but they make no promises. It seems Shields was their main focus for MV3 mitigation, much like Vivaldi's now native content blocker made for the same reason (though Vivaldi has said[2] they won't be supporting MV2 past the last Chromium build tha…

Why use uBlock on Brave when Brave already blocks ads natively?

Does brave also block YouTube ads like ublock origin does?

Re: "Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"

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Vivaldi is not open-source: https://vivaldi.com/blog/technology/why-isnt-vivaldi-browser...

Ah. They can go fuck themselves then. I had assumed given the fact that the source was available.

c++ sources are available.

Re: "Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"

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The other aspect, somewhat memory-holed, was that Chrome was automatically installed as shovelware if you went to install Adobe Flash for IE or Firefox: https://www.reddit.com/r/chrome/comments/23jnmy/why_is_chrom... This kind of not-freely-given consent was key to Chrome's growth.

Chrome was bundled with so many installers. Google probably spent billions shoving Chrome into any machine they could.

Tellingly, that very bundling is how Sundar got into the spotlight at Google.

Re: "Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"

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> People--especially tech nerds--didn't have to switch to the closed source, conflict-of-interest, browser. Do you not remember all the ads promoting chrome? First was chrome-frame IE extension, then came all the ads - then tie-ins where you got Chrome in addition when you really wanted some other app. They pushed it hard because they knew they had no real competitors and could eat up marketshare.

Chrome won because it was more performant (read: only point of interest for Joe Average) and it was modern and cool (read: only point of interest for nerds). Firefox failed because it stagnated on performance and code quality (read: memory leaks for daaaaaaaaays) and ultimately because Mozilla was corrupted by Mitchell Baker and still is to this very day driving away nerds and engineers by the truckload. Lest we forg…

Yeah that's last part is funny but pretty true. I had always used Safari (basically since they replaced Internet Explore for Mac with it) but it became much less performant and had many annoyances regression (like the favicons in bookmarks). Still, I kept using it but what make me switch to Chrome a few years ago (about 2) was a bug preventing proper password sync with my iPhone (acquired from a beta testing I believe, some got it successfully resolved by contacting support but I can't be arsed, they should just have a reset everything option, including their cloud thingy).

Hilariously since you can use Chrome password manager on iOS, it became a better solution overall than trying to stick with Apple mess. With it I got support for uBlock Origin (nothing is as good for Safari, and it came to a point where I just couldn't deal with the ads anymore) and a much faster/more modern browser. As a bonus, it syncs everything with my Windows installation much better and I can use my Chrome profile on other computers when I need to. But when uBlock Origin is not supported in Chrome anymore I'll probably revisit the choice for something else.

Apple has completely lost the plot, pushing their half-assed, barely work, cloud stuff while simultaneously raising the price of entry/maintenance of their hardware. This is why I laugh my ass choice when they brag about their privacy bullshit. If they have wanted, they could have very well figured out a sync without relying on any cloud stuff; instead, they push iCloud to make more money (it's a crutch for people with iPhones that have way too little storage and other proper computing device) even though it makes no sense for what was the philosophy of Apple software/hardware previously. They have no competitive advantage in this matter and it often just sucks or doesn't work properly.

Who's IBM now, right ?

Re: "Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"

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> tech nerds you would be surprised how many devs these days have drunk the big tech coolaid. leetcode all the time and dream of working at google and using chrome and writing javascript. if the tech nerds took a stand and used firefox en masse, we wouldn't have this problem. unfortunately it is now normie season. we have to travel through these dark times.

There's still hope. I would like to draw a parallel to Microsoft Windows, with my own narrative added over. Tech nerds mostly knew that Windows was not a good server operating system. It was also not a fantastic software development environment unless you were using a big, all-inclusive, IDE that was probably aimed specifically at developing Windows libraries and applications. But, Windows was (and still is) the choi…

With the path Apple/Google are taking it looks like Microsoft will be the best bet for quite a while still. The thing with Microsoft is that while they lack taste and have some nasty corporate behavior, they are less greedy than the others and are willing to work with their customers more, respond to needs/demands better. Oh, and they don't try to have a captive hardware market, that is a massive plus.

The reason the "normies" "choose" Microsoft is because it's the only choice that make somewhat sense from a financial standpoint if you don't care that much. There is a whole mythology about Apple hardware lasting longer and all but, in my experience, the reverse is true and you get much more for your money if you opt for a standard computer that happens to come with Windows.

Linux would have a fight chance with better hardware/software support but dev/manufacturers can be arsed because it's a chicken and egg problem (there are also too many variations of what is Linux, so that doesn't help).

With the iPhone success, Apple had a chance to gain market share for "real" computer in a way that would have long lasting effect both for business and consumer support, instead they went full greed mode and found many clever ways to close even more a platform that was already not the most open, while had the same time selling weak computer that are clearly lacking for the price, very often with terrible engineering decision (like their new Apple Silicon iMac, already having issues, less than 4 years after release, what a joke).

Re: "Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"

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> It's worth noting that the maintenance of the "lite" version is at some nonzero risk of burnout for its developers, ironically in part due to Mozilla being unnecessarily hostile: Why would you even use the lite version on firefox when the original works?

I'm doing all my banking in a separate Firefox profile where uBlock Origin Lite is the only installed extension. So there a zero extensions that have permission to access the pages or requests. Of course I'm still using the normal uBlock Origin in my main browsing profile.

Seems safer to clone the source code and build the OG locally if banking security is that important.
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