iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max • Hacker News Board

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by melenaboija » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 10:02 PM UTC

swyx wrote: post #113

i clipped the 5 mins on apple intelligence here for those interested https://x.com/swyx/status/1833231875537850659 notes: - photos/album search now includes video understanding, which imo seems very good from the first 2 examples they showed. includes scroll to exact time of the moment you describe. - Mail and Notifications will show summaries instead of str[:x] - Siri now knows iPhone, becomes the ultimate manual on…

> overall i think insanely good ideas on ai + phone integrations.

Mmmmm, feels disappointing to me if that is all we get from a multi trillion tech company + multi trillion technology

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by thom » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 10:02 PM UTC

Does the new camera button thingy happen to be a fingerprint scanner as well? I live in a constant state of rage with Face ID, longing for my iPhone 8 Plus with its Home button and the ability to pay for things in one fluid motion.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by willseth » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 10:03 PM UTC

paxys wrote: post #82

Smaller notch? Touch ID? Better battery life? Faster charging? Larger default storage? Nope, let's skip all that and spend most of the event talking about video recording. Is anyone here actually excited about the features they just announced? Or are people simply upgrading because they get the latest iPhone every year or two by default?

I have a 14 Pro, and the main reasons I want to upgrade are for Apple Intelligence (mostly Siri-based) and for the better camera and video (as my family's default photog). If I didn't have kids I could wait a few more years on the camera, but I've been wanting a better Siri for years.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by moffkalast » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 10:03 PM UTC

mihaaly wrote: post #432

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

Not only when the battery runs bad. That can be renewed (sometimes, my 1st gen SE from the last batch runs the second battery pack, probably the last batch of batteries available). Also when you are forced by apps you need that want the newest hardware by some reason. I mean when most of them, because some could be missed for a while, but when most you use are just refuse to work, then it is time to get a new one. No…

5G is rapidly becoming this.

I'm still using a phone that's only a few years old and maxes out at 4G. Lately it's started sporadically losing connection entirely in locations where it previously worked perfectly... meanwhile everyone around me has a five bar 5G signal on their newer models. They've started to do to 4G what they did to E, H and 3G, complete bandwidth reduction to fuckin zero so the latest protocol can hog all frequencies. Planned obsolescence or what? Upgrade or we will slowly reduce your device to a useless brick.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by foobarian » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 10:04 PM UTC

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

The software mute was the last thing that made a difference in my day to day usage (but didn’t upgrade for it). The next thing I would love and upgrade instantly for is a sealed, waterproof design

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by dividedbyzero » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 10:04 PM UTC

IgorPartola wrote: post #284

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

The real advancements majority of users would notice: - Get rid of green text when messaging Android phones - More battery life. - Better camera (arguably already achieved) - lesser issue but fix the stupid bugs with storage/duplication with pictures and messages. I am already paying for a TB level plan with iCloud. How can my phone possibly run out of storage? That’s it. All the AI stuff is marginal at best and usel…

> Get rid of green text when messaging Android phones

I don't think iMessage is big anywhere outside the US (which appears to account for about 9% of iPhone users). I don't think a majority of global users even knows there are different colors.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by jmull » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 10:05 PM UTC

015a wrote: post #329

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

Heck, I have friends in tech that in the past did iPhone 4, 6, 8, whether you were an "even number" or an "odd number" iPhone buyer became something of a label. One of these guys is on the 11 Pro, has the 16 Plus in his cart, but is actively texting the group chat whether or not to go through with it. If you feel Apple isn't actively facing a xx% risk to their business by 2030, you're beside yourself. Its not that pe…

It doesn't look like Apple needs people to be upgrading every other year to do well. Not anywhere close.

Apple sold 232M iPhones in 2023, and had 1.83B active iPhone users.

Doing a little math, they'd need their existing users to upgrade every six years to keep selling them at the current rate. Your friend would still be ahead of the curve for Apple if he goes forward with that upgrade.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by _ph_ » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 10:07 PM UTC

May be not an earth-shattering update vs. the 15, but overall a lot of improvements. Probably more so for the plain iPhone 16, as it gets the A18 SOC, the Pro seems to have mainly one CPU core more.

As I am on an iPhone 13 Pro Max, still in total absolutely a worthy upgrade for me. I certainly look forward to it. The advantages vs the 15 I can see so far:

- updated SOC, somewhat faster, but up to 30% more power-efficient which turns into

- larger battery life. Thats something everyone will welcome, I guess.

- better camera: 48mp wide angle, 120mm tele lens, 4k 120 Hz.

- a bit larger screen, too bad they at least didn't name any other screen enhancements

- the shutter button. A ton of functionality built into one single button. Pressure/touch sensitivity, haptical feedback. That should greatly improve its usage as a camera.

- all the AI stuff. We need to wait how it delivers, when it arrives (especially, if you are outside the US), but that could get interesting when it delivers.

While there wasn't any big surprise or outstanding change, for a year over year update a lot of things and definitely very nice for everyone with an older phone than the 15.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by kridsdale3 » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 10:07 PM UTC

pants2 wrote: post #265

llm_nerd wrote: post #216

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"- camera adds events to calendar!" I'm on iOS 18.0 on my iPhone 15 Pro, rather that the 18.1 with the "AI". Recently had an eye doctor appt for one of my children and they scheduled a follow-up, giving me a little card with the details. I was in a hurry so took a picture of it intending to enter the calendar event later, and it immediately pulled up a fully-filled in, completely accurate new calendar event. Little a…

I have a hilarious list of animals that my cat has been misclassified as by my iPhone. Everything from a beetle to a nematode. It doesn't give me a lot of confidence in these features!

Beetle and Nematode a perfect kitty names though.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by wilg » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 10:07 PM UTC

iteratethis wrote: post #360

FireBeyond wrote: post #322

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apple makes an excellent product Contrarian opinion on the AirPods. Apple says that they think the new noise cancellation "auto adjust" is better on the "human" side of things, and the social - they showed an interaction where the barista started talking to the wearer, and the AirPods adjusted so the barista could be heard. To me, that's not social, I think it's actually anti-social. It moves the onus onto anyone w…

Fully agree. Same for putting a speaker on the Apple watch. "Great for when you don't have your airpods with you" Yes, and surely it will be normalized in the culture to just blast your watch in public.

the apple watch has had a speaker for 10 years and it hasn't been an issue