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Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Meanwhile nothing for mega corporation pirating data to train AI.

It’s not pirating. It’s transformative and fair use. Derivative even in some cases. Each piece of content is but a grain of sand on an island.

It’s called the open internet.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Much like Napster, his only real crime was success. If nobody or barely anyone used Megaupload, he wouldn’t have been in as much trouble.

He paved the way for streaming and digital distribution of media. Megavideo in particular had the highest encoding rates possible at the time, even superior to YouTube.

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not really, his website was based on hong kong, this is a fight against america playing world police, which i'm on board with they have no business going after just a single man so fervently, he's a foreign national and the websites weren't based in the US

If not the US, then who do you suggest could plausibly lead (I would even say prop up) the free world and the global economy?

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Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Didn't YouTube get popular on pirated content first? What was the main difference of the initial phase of YouTube and MegaUpload? They both went legal later.

> What was the main difference of the initial phase of YouTube and MegaUpload? Kim dotcom didn't go to Stanford and have layers of contacts within the DoJ

Salty hot-take but not grounded in reality if you remember or look back on the facts. He actively encouraged piracy, of whioch there is ample proof, then doubled-down on this, then tried to frame his own take on "following the rules" - all while continuing to poke the bear. We can debate what the laws and punishements should be, but he's about to feel justice in many different forms.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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I appreciate Kim Dotcom for running MegaUpload and later Mega, in a time when the internet was younger and wilder. Also for his pirate spirit and "stick it to the man" attitude. But everything has a limit, specifically his resistance against the law, even if he hid it behind virtues. I think it's clear for everybody that one cannot get away with this kind of stuff, once governments get involved. Isn't it wiser to sto…

If everyone just sat back and allowed the powers to do what they please, we'd have absolutely nothing in this world. Countless have spilled blood or have been killed over the fight for freedom in the past giving us the humanist open society we have now. The fight is never over.

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> Tweet about opposing war in ukraine arguing that NATO is outdated and not in the interest of Ukrainians? Oh pay no attention to him -- he is on the communist payroll. Hailing from a country that joined NATO in the 90s I wouldn't brand a person arguing this as being on communist payroll - just ignorant beyond measure. Russia has been a consistently bad neighbour for decades now and I for one am happy that in my coun…

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> if anything the story of Finland ascension into NATO supports the arguments that NATO is intentionally -- and aggressively -- pushing Russia to war

It's incredible the convoluted things people tell themselves to explain away the simple and obvious reality:

The only reason Finland and Sweden joined NATO was because Russia invaded Ukraine and started a genocide, while threatening Finland and Sweden with the same (and nukes).

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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NZ is a member of 5 eyes IIRC, and so likely have various relations/cooperative agreements in place that make it easy(-ier) for justifying the handing of citizens over to another state.

I wonder if the same would have happened if the roles had been reversed. Somehow I doubt it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Harry_Dunn Pretty much.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

not really, his website was based on hong kong, this is a fight against america playing world police, which i'm on board with they have no business going after just a single man so fervently, he's a foreign national and the websites weren't based in the US

If not the US, then who do you suggest could plausibly lead (I would even say prop up) the free world and the global economy?

Catering to trillion dollar media companies is not exactly my idea of freedom.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

#459

Much like Napster, his only real crime was success. If nobody or barely anyone used Megaupload, he wouldn’t have been in as much trouble. He paved the way for streaming and digital distribution of media. Megavideo in particular had the highest encoding rates possible at the time, even superior to YouTube.

Except, he paid people for, and promoted the upload of copywrited works. He knowingly participated and basically tailored his products to pirating. Some people love him, but he will see his day in court apparently, but no one wants to even deal with him because he's gone crazy.

Re: Kim Dotcom's extradition to the U.S. given green light by New Zealand

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Didn't YouTube get popular on pirated content first? What was the main difference of the initial phase of YouTube and MegaUpload? They both went legal later.

I am sure if youtube execs had emails showing that they were actively encouraging and participating in the posting of copyrighted material on the site they would have been prosecuted as well. Thats the evidence against Kim Dotcom, emails.

Funny you should say that, because there are literally such emails all the way up to Google's C-suite. They leaked a few years ago when Viacom sued them for mass copyright infringement on Youtube. In that case Google even tried to argue that it was ok because it's the content creator's and not the service's fault. When are they getting prosecuted?

>Revealing e-mails and other internal communications unsealed Thursday as part of a $1 billion lawsuit brought by Viacom show that many top Googlers — all the way up to co-founder Sergey Brin — were concerned about YouTube’s copyright piracy problems and how they could reflect badly on Google’s ethics.

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>Google executives — who previously had referred to YouTube as a “rogue enabler of content theft” whose “business model is completely sustained by pirated content” — nevertheless agreed to pay $1.65 billion to buy YouTube in 2006.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2010/03/18/google-executives-cal...

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