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Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Be skeptical. Why are announcements being delivered from the social media staff via twitter ? Where is the President ?

Or do you only read twitter to stay informed?

There's a signed letter from Biden announcing it, published on reputable news websites.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

#452

My god. I really didn‘t think he would actually do it.

There was never any risk of me voting for Trump, but when I watched the debate it became abundantly clear that Biden could not win an election. He came off as an extremely frail old man and I had my doubts that he would survive the entire debate , let alone another four years in office. I'm a pretty left-leaning person and I find Trump to be an overwhelmingly unappealing idiot in general, but even I had to admit that…

Love Joe, but 2 minutes into the debate it was clear he couldn't win an election. He was behind, and he needed to come out strong, and somehow he made it worse. Whether or not Kamala can remains to be seen, but at least there's still _potential_ there.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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One of the most effective presidents since Johnson or Truman. But he did campaign on a single term. Let’s hope the Dem’s circular firing squad puts down its guns so they can quickly concentrate on winning the election with someone … probably Harris is the simplest answer.

> Let’s hope the Dem’s circular firing squad puts down its guns so they can quickly concentrate on winning the election with someone … probably Harris is the simplest answer. On the contrary, the processes that anointed Hillary in 2016 and Biden round 2 in 2024 were exactly the kind of "well, it's this person's turn now" decisions that were bad, anti-democratic (lower-case d) choices previously. I'm not looking for a…

That's literally what her elected job is.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Simplest may not be best here. Is Harris the person who is most likely to get people to the polls and vote Dem? Is she someone who can convert independent/undecided voters? etc. IMO those are not easy "yes, absolutely" answers. Does the Democratic party have anyone in the wings who is more likely to win than Harris? Maybe? Gretchen Whitmer might be a strong candidate, off the top of my head. But I'm struggling to thi…

The polling before this announcement was showing Harris with better numbers vs. Trump than Biden had, at least.

I believe Harris would still have access to the $240M Biden/Harris campaign fund too.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was thinking that too and it might be a brilliant way to get the folks on the right that don't want to vote Trump but also not necessarily a dem. Also it could be a great marketing tactic to be like 'we're bringing unity back' or something to that. And theoretically no reason it couldn't happen other than both parties definitely not being on board with it.

I think the problem is that both parties have moved, the democrats shifting left and the republicans shifting right (and to put the cards on the table, I think the republicans have shifted a lot more rightward than democrats have leftwards). This leaves people pretty unwilling to go for a split the difference approach. Like if you ask people in favour of a centrist position, they're probably picturing someone in the…

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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

#457

Not going to happen, but I wonder how a mixed party ticket would do. Kamala (or whoever) + Mitt Romney as VP ? Has it ever been done? Would it work to attract the center/swing vote, or more likely to be a negative?

This is an interesting thought experiment. What would the US be like with a completely impossible ticket? Would we flourish under a Lenny Bruce-Knuckles the Echidna ticket? What if Misty and Brock were the respective RNC and DNC chairs? These are the sorts of questions the status quo politicians don’t want us to be asking

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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

#458

Oof. This guy has been the biggest positive surprise of the US presidents in my lifetime. Expectations were low, but he actually turned out to be a good president (from a European perspective). No new wars, no more talk about shifting defense focus to Asia, generally nothing unreasonable. Good support for Ukraine, no doubts about NATO - rather the opposite. Basically, the rich uncle on the other side of the pond has…

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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Not going to happen, but I wonder how a mixed party ticket would do. Kamala (or whoever) + Mitt Romney as VP ? Has it ever been done? Would it work to attract the center/swing vote, or more likely to be a negative?

> Not going to happen, but I wonder how a mixed party ticket would do. Kamala (or whoever) + Mitt Romney as VP ? I think it would be very hard to convince the liberal-progressive base (i.e. the core of the party) of the DNC to go for this. > Has it ever been done? Before the 12th Amendment was passed, the VP came from the opposing party[1]. This didn't work particularly well in practice, which is why nobody remembers…

> I think it would be very hard to convince the liberal-progressive base (i.e. the core of the party) of the DNC to go for this.

I am quite liberal. I'd vote for this a million times before I'd consider Trump as a president.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Not going to happen, but I wonder how a mixed party ticket would do. Kamala (or whoever) + Mitt Romney as VP ? Has it ever been done? Would it work to attract the center/swing vote, or more likely to be a negative?

No. The staunch Republicans will still vote for Trump and the only way to beat that is for there to be an incredibly cohesive force among a population that isn't very cohesive in the first place. The Republicans actually have it easy, they align and bond on lots of things. The center and left align on very few things and fight amongst themselves.

A mixed ticket isn't going to align them better.

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