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10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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Post by refurb »

amanaplanacanal wrote: post #229
mensetmanusman wrote: post #214

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Republicans are strongly anti-illegal immigration, and that appears anti-immigration to some.

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As someone who isn't American, the dialogue around immigration in the US seems so odd.

I've lived in six different countries (including the US) and in every other country there is no discussion around illegal immigrants - they are deported. It's not even a political issue. Having secure borders is a norm.

Then I get to the US and there is this weird political debate around it. For someone reason it's "bad" to refer to people who enter illegally as "illegal immigrants". People argue that people who entered illegally should be legalized.

I find it really odd.

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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Post by rpmisms »

labrador wrote: post #107

I support immigration and oppose the Republican anti-immigrant platform because it seems to me there is significant brain drain from many countries to the U.S. and that contributes to our success. For example, in this article is about white collar crime, it points out that many Somali-Americans were professionals back in Somalia. I'm not concerned about the crime because that seems like a somewhat higher tendency unt…

I support immigration too, as long as it's people we vet. Smart people want to live here, and will jump through hoops to do so. We should make the hoops easier for them, and actually deport people who spit in their faces by waltzing over the border and staying. It's not fair to the hard-working honest people who played by the rules.

Also, you should be concerned about the crime. Have you seen what the cartel does in Mexico? It's terrifying, and those (cartel members) are not people we want here.

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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Post by sumedh »

aegis4244 wrote: post #255
pton_xd wrote: post #172

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> the Republican anti-immigrant platform because it seems to me there is significant brain drain from many countries to the U.S. and that contributes to our success. Explain how unskilled illegal immigrants contribute to our success. I'm open minded but I've yet to hear anything convincing. No one is opposed to the legal immigration of skilled workers.

Economists say every immigrant is a net economic positive to the nation. They eat,buy food clothing, cars. Every immigrant child is a net negative to the state,at least until they turn 18. But it isn't even. Net neg per kid of maybe 800 a year, positive of each adult of 1200-1600 are the numbers I've heard on freakonomics podcast. Their guests proposed solution was to have the feds pay the states per an immigrant chi…

> https://www.bushcenter.org

Is this some propaganda website by Bush to promote neocon values?

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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Post by sumedh »

jfengel wrote: post #195
greenchair wrote: post #151

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correction: anti-illegal immigrant platform. the 3rd worlder influx of criminals is negative for the country not positive.

An easy way to reduce illegal immigration is to raise quotas. People would rather migrate legally.

Why raise quotas though?

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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Post by sumedh »

ImJamal wrote: post #204
tuxoko wrote: post #188

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> That said, it's pretty obvious that economic sanctions aren't bringing about regime change. On the flip side, you have China, where US pretty much helped build up their economy and hoped for a peaceful and democratic outcome. How well did that go?

The USSR and China and prime examples of sanctioning vs opening up. One is still around and persucting its people and the other is on the dust bin of history. The problem with the Cuba sanctions is that a large chunk of countries aren't sanctioning Cuba. If everybody got behind the sanctions regime change would happen. Half assing it won't cut it.

> the other is on the dust bin of history.

and yet US is spending taxpayer money to defend Ukraine.

Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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Post by rpmisms »

sangnoir wrote: post #395
hnpolicestate wrote: post #292

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I honestly don't see it. Statistically or otherwise. Even if it were. It's a protected unalienable right. Cannot under any circumstances be circumvented. In my opinion of course.

> Cannot under any circumstances be circumvented. Tangentially - I find it fascinating how the originalists on the supreme court get fuzzy on what a "well regulated militia" meant at the time the amendment was written.

This has been explained ad nauseum, but here goes.

Well-regulated meant, at the time, in good working order. The militia meant, and still means, able-bodied men from 18 to 45. The right was granted to the people, not the militia.

Please make snide comments in good faith, at least.

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Post by 1992spacemovie »

Aeglaecia wrote: post #430
rgbrenner wrote: post #415

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European nations suggest that some immigrant groups aren't able to integrate with the host society after multiple generations You as an American can move to France, and you'll never be considered French. Doesn't matter if you speak french every day for the rest of your life with the most perfect French accent the world has ever heard. And if you and your American wife have kids in France after living in France for 20…

it would be polite to act magnanimously in stating that America is not the only country with this behaviour, really I'm glad to see that the American god complex affects those across all walks of life

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Re: 10% of Cubans left Cuba between 2022 and 2023

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deaddodo wrote: post #327
zozbot234 wrote: post #220

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WWI also forced the issue in a way that hasn't quite applied to other "ethnic" folks in the US. German immigrants, by and large, have been pushed towards forgetting their national culture altogether and assimilating into a newly-manufactured (by early 20th-century Progressives, no less), unified "White" identity.

There was as much (more, even) pressure on the Italians and Irish to do the same. But, to add to and enforce OP's point, their cultures were a larger schism away and they instead held on and entrenched their identities (to their objective detriment, no matter your moral stance). Meanwhile, Anglo, Franco, German, Dutch, etc cultures all kind of melded into the early "White American" identity; due to the general ease o…

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