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We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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At the end of the day, we still don't know what exactly happened and probably, never will. However, it seems clear there was a rift between Rapid Commercialization (Team Sam) and Upholding the Original Principles (Team Helen/Ilya). I think the tensions were brewing for quite a while, as it's evident from an article written even before GPT-3 [1]. > Over time, it has allowed a fierce competitiveness and mounting pressu…

Ok, serious question. If you think the threat is real, how are we not already screwed? OpenAI is one of half a dozen teams [0] actively working on this problem, all funded by large public companies with lots of money and lots of talent. They made unique contributions, sure. But they're not that far ahead. If they stumble, surely one of the others will take the lead. Or maybe they will anyway, because who's to say whe…

The risk/scenario of singularity is that there will be just one winner and they will be able to prevent everyone else from building their own agi

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Disappointing outcome. The process has conclusively confirmed that OpenAI is in fact not open and that it is effectively controlled by Microsoft. Furthermore, the overwhelming groupthink shows there's clearly little critical thinking amongst OpenAI's employees either. It might not seem like the case right now, but I think the real disruption is just about to begin. OpenAI does not have in its DNA to win, they're too…

It wasn't necessarily groupthink - there was profound pressure from team Sam to sign that petition. What's going to happen to your career when you were one of the 200 who held out initially?

How do you know that?

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Emmett Shear on Twitter: I am deeply pleased by this result, after ~72 very intense hours of work. Coming into OpenAI, I wasn’t sure what the right path would be. This was the pathway that maximized safety alongside doing right by all stakeholders involved. I’m glad to have been a part of the solution. https://twitter.com/eshear/status/1727210329560756598

He’s trying very very hard to claim some credit in this. Probably had none.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Why is Altman, who has no higher education, critical for development of AI?

Is higher education really crucial for pushing something forward? Even if he isn't an AI expert, there is lots of stuff surrounding the technology that needs doing, for example massive amounts of funding, which he seems to have been pretty good at securing.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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post #215

Disappointing outcome. The process has conclusively confirmed that OpenAI is in fact not open and that it is effectively controlled by Microsoft. Furthermore, the overwhelming groupthink shows there's clearly little critical thinking amongst OpenAI's employees either. It might not seem like the case right now, but I think the real disruption is just about to begin. OpenAI does not have in its DNA to win, they're too…

They made GPT4 and you think they clearly have little critical thinking? That’s some big talk you’re talking.

That's the curse of specialisation. You can be really smart in one area and completely unaware in others. This industry is full of people with deep technical knowledge but little in the way of social skills.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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post #215

Disappointing outcome. The process has conclusively confirmed that OpenAI is in fact not open and that it is effectively controlled by Microsoft. Furthermore, the overwhelming groupthink shows there's clearly little critical thinking amongst OpenAI's employees either. It might not seem like the case right now, but I think the real disruption is just about to begin. OpenAI does not have in its DNA to win, they're too…

Disappointing? What has OpenAI done to you? We don't even know what happened.

Everything has been pure speculation. I would curb my judgement if I were you, until we actually know what happened.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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post #215

Disappointing outcome. The process has conclusively confirmed that OpenAI is in fact not open and that it is effectively controlled by Microsoft. Furthermore, the overwhelming groupthink shows there's clearly little critical thinking amongst OpenAI's employees either. It might not seem like the case right now, but I think the real disruption is just about to begin. OpenAI does not have in its DNA to win, they're too…

> there's clearly little critical thinking amongst OpenAI's employees either. That they reached a different conclusion than the outcome you wished for does not indicate a lack of critical thinking skills. They have a different set of information than you do, and reached a different conclusion.

The available public information is enough to reach this conclusion.
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