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EU data regulator bans personalised advertising on Facebook and Instagram

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Are you willing to pay for all internet websites then?

Many websites don't have ads, and I'd be happy if all others disappeared.

Can you please share the list of websites you use which don't serve ads? Would love to see an internet experience without ads and without stealing the content via adblockers.

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The telemetry, ads and forced online accounts are the only major changes since Windows 7 that I can think of. What useful features has Microsoft added since then to make you consider it at its peak currently? I haven't been using it as heavily and I'm genuinely interested if there's something great I've missed.

It's lots and lots. Just around things like DPI scaling and multi monitor there is quite a bit. You might not notice because maybe when you ran Win7 you had one non HDR standard def. Then maybe you had two. But today you might have multiple monitors with different scaling, some being HDR and so on. And that mostly just works in the later versions of Win10/11 where as the features just weren't there in Win7. When you…

How many of these are worth the cost of the telemetry?

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Jews in 1920s didn't have much issue with the German government knowing about their faith, fast forward 1933... God knows what they'll use it for in the future, they'll know everything about you, who you voted for 15 years ago, what joke you make 20 years ago against the now-in-charge cast, do you sympathise with communist ideas ? Did you like or hate Musk before he becomes a dictator of the now independent Republic…

Why do people think that this hypothetical future evil government is going to care whether the people they persecute are actually guilty of “crimes”? Despotic regimes have never had a problem finding plenty of people to kill. They aren’t going to be thwarted in their pursuit of LGBTQ people because they can’t get a list of people who used Grindr.

Because it doesn't have to be literal Hitler coming back. Just look at the abortion situation in the US. What is legal now might not be tomorrow, and we don't have to go turbo dictatorship mode for that

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Upon logging into okcupid today I received a pop up inviting me to join The League (another dating app), with my phone number already pre-propagated. After accepting, they sent me this email. > We use the combination of your Facebook and LinkedIn data plus your About Me and Photos to ensure we are building a balanced, high-achieving and diverse community. Our screening algorithm looks at indicators like social influe…

As someone that refuses to use Linked In or Facebook it is wild to me that someone would not only use them, but willingly link a dating app to them. It makes me wonder how many more things I'll never get to participate in because I've deleted/avoid social media.

So FB has one solid product that I wish they wouldn’t fuck up so much: Marketplace. Everything else about it sucks but MP is legitimately useful and the ability to see a person’s social profile along with their listings is very nice. It is the only reason I still have an FB profile.

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>Dark theme Windows has had themes/color schemes since 3.0 - yes the early 90s Ray tracing has nothing to do with Windows, either

Dark theme isn't the windows color theming that always existed. It's the actual system setting that instructs apps to use dark mode. It's in UXTheme.dll (an OS lib) and the function app devs use to query it is ShouldSystemUseDarkMode(). This was introduced in Windows 10 1903. Drawing the line between the OS and "not the OS" is really difficult. Direct X is included with the OS and DX12 is not compatible with Windows…

> Dark theme isn't the windows color theming that always existed.

Yes, and no. The colour theming that has existed since at leats Windows v2 could be used to implement dark more quite easily if only your apps listened to the relevant settings (some did, many did at least partially due to the framework they were written in doing so, some didn't at all – partially is the worse option as it caused contrast problems between compliant and non-compliant parts).

> It's the actual system setting that instructs apps to use dark mode.

The old theming was through system settings too. There were GDI API calls to read the values so you could make your app mirror the user's choices. Not as convenient as a single “dark mode” switch but no different other than that affordance. Many toolkits did this for you.

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Ok, my contrarian hot take (for HN at least). The real entities we need to be afraid of in regards to privacy are governments & politicians, not companies & entrepreneurs. The worst thing a company can do is try to sell you more soap. The government on the other hand can literally ruin your life (or even end it in some countries). The EU is doing a fantastic job of keeping everyone distracted by pointing the finger a…

Hum, if these behavioural profiles and assessments spill over to financial institutions, employment, housing, (private) education, etc., these harmless "companies & entrepreneurs" may have more impact on your personal life and your chances in life than government in a democratic country.

But they don't. These behavioral profiles are literally the core product of Facebook.

If you think that Facebook is willing to part with the sole thing that makes them competitive... is crazy.

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Upon logging into okcupid today I received a pop up inviting me to join The League (another dating app), with my phone number already pre-propagated. After accepting, they sent me this email. > We use the combination of your Facebook and LinkedIn data plus your About Me and Photos to ensure we are building a balanced, high-achieving and diverse community. Our screening algorithm looks at indicators like social influe…

One of those things y'all never upvote is papers about psychodiagnostic software that uses your social media posts, cell phone location data, etc. to diagnose both chronic and acute psychiatric conditions. I'm fairly certain that if a person is highly active on social media such a system could produce a better diagnosis than most people get when they see a professional, if only because the quality of psychodiagnosis…

That sounds nice! Do you know of any offline linux-compatible software that could pull this off? I'm happy to try it on myself.

What I don't understand though is why do I also need to share my browsing history with faceless american corps that sell my data for profit. This sounds unnecessary for the main point (psychodiagnostic software).

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I'm using firefox containers for youtube, so I don't login, don't have cookies etc, and yet youtube still suggests videos that are related to what I watched previously.

So they even build profiles of people who evade tracking techniques. I don't understand how they can think it won't tarnish their image or backfire.

It's funny because on one hand, we don't want government surveillance, but yet people criticize the GDPR or the EU or defend the advertising industry, which is probably a very efficient proxy for government surveillance.

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Are you sure there is a line between the tech companies and the governments? We’re in the middle of a massive intelligence scandal here in Denmark. Which at its core is about how a couple of high level figures might’ve leaked that our own government is sharing all our internet data with the US “illegally”. I put “illegally” in quotes because it’s not technically illegal for the US to use surveillance on us. Just like…

> they are also doing it to protect our tech industry With these laws in place, EU companies face worse conditions than US ones. They may be protecting some bigger EU companies, but they definitely aren't protecting our IT industry. GPDR was an annoyance for Google, and a complete disaster for anyone small(think companies that can't hire a Chief Data Protection Officer to work full time) There's a good rationale for…

I've never had any real problems with this (as a developer). The GDPR isn't that hard to deal with, mostly its quite intuitive and obvious. The spirit of the law is simple, you need a good reason to have data on your customer, and the customer needs to know and consent to you having it, and remain in control in the sense that you must delete it on request. That is the core, which is very reasonable.

Of course, there is tons and tons of legalese, edge cases, interpretations etc. But if you abide by and implement these basic principles, especially as a small company, you can be quite confident you won't run into any real problems.

If you kind of cared about your customer data in the first place as part of your company culture, its not that hard to adapt. Maybe some really careless companies had a hard time. There must have been some kafkaesque situations killing small companies no doubt, but honestly I haven't heard of them. I only hear Americans complain about it.

To me, this means the law is just right.

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You can still opt for taking money out of an ATM and and pay by cash to not be tracked by the card company. Meta does not offer the same option

You have to use Meta? I'm not arguing for or against privacy here - just trying to point out that you still have options. It might be a pain to contact loved ones, check in on friends, etc. but so is using an ATM.

"Simply create your own social media company and get all the people you want to keep in contact with to move to it"
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