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Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Is it? Its pretty evil to overcharge and prey on a customer base who doesn't know any better, but would benefit from a more usable starting point, oh say 16... Tims a finance guy, they are kinda evil by default.

Yeah, Apple customers tend to also just "trust Apple" and get whatever the recommended product is for their price point. Half the reason I find this troubling is ewaste, the other half is I'm sick of having to try to explain RAM to my MIL and ask how many tabs they keep open when asked which computer she should buy. If they had a better baseline memory (16gb) or a simple inexpensive upgrade that's the second option i…

No one should have to care how many tabs they have open, and since browsers kill/suspend background tabs these days, they probably don't have to care about it either.

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Functionally, how does this impact observed performance on heavy loads like code compile or video manipulation? I doubt it's not much, and these are the low/mid-tier priced machines we are talking about. If you bought a $2k M2 machine and traded it for a $2k M3 machine, you may gain better battery life with no concessions, except for benchmark measurements (that don't affect your daily work).

These are not low/mid tier machines when talking about "consumer-grade".

Then why do they come with (low end) consumer level storage and memory capacity?

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I guess we'll have to wait for benchmarks but I did find this interesting: Apple's PR release for M2 pro: "up to 20 percent greater performance over M1 Pro" Apple's announcement for M3 pro: "up to 20 percent faster than M1 Pro" (they didn't bother to compare it to M2 pro)

Sure, that's the title, but at least in this PR they immediately show a graph with a comparison to both. Presumably it makes more marketing sense to compare to the M1 family up front because most people that bought an M2 last year are probably not going to be upgrading to M3. They are speaking to the people most likely to upgrade.

fwiw, i cant remember the last time i saw a company go back more than a generation in their own comparison. Apple is saying here as much as they're not saying here. M2->M3 may not be a compelling upgrade story.

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Well, thats annoying. I just bought a M2 Max 16" MBP in mid September. I wouldn't have expected a new revision in the same year. I also swear apple used to have a policy for this situation, but I can't find it now.

Always check this page before purchasing Apple hw https://buyersguide.macrumors.com/

I mean, I did.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230912190332/https://buyersgui...

Neutral looked pretty good to me.

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It's shiny but I think I'll stick to my upgradable RAM and two m2 slots + a RTX 3070ti and i7-12700H for a fraction of the price. Something at Apple broke when they switched to their own silicon outside iPad and iPhone. They turned around the slow march toward parity on price:performance/RAM/storage and went screaming in the other direction. I really wanted to switch to mac when I was shopping for a new system earlie…

People have never bought Apple because of the hardware. They buy it because of the software, the aesthetics, the label, the support (It's easier to find an Apple repair shop than repair shops for any other brand anywhere in the world), and the integration with Apple's services. Comparing spec to spec is missing the point.

Also while this is niche, at the high end (M3 max + 128gb) you end up with a laptop that can literally just do things no Nvidia laptop can do right now due to the gobs of memory directly addressable by the GPU. I'm not saying 99.9% of people are going to take advantage of it, but it is a thing.

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Intel straggler here. And I'll remain one until Linux runs flawlessly on the newer generation. I have an older Thinkpad as my main workhorse and a now quite old Macbook air for on the road, it's battery has been shot for a long time but it still works quite good when plugged in and I'm too much of a miser to have it replaced. But if there is a way to run a full Linux distro on the newer hardware then I'll probably bu…

Check out asahilinux.org - I have archlinux arm running as my main OS on Air M1 for a year now.

How many hours of battery life do you typically get when running Linux on the M1?
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