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Re: Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing

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Post by unsupp0rted » Wed, Oct 25, 2023, 3:31 PM UTC

LargeTomato wrote: post #447

If I let my kid have so much candy that they stop being able to control themselves and then they give themselves childhood obesity or diabetes is that the candy makers' faults? If I encourage my kid to engage in the dangerous sport of snowboarding (this is an analogy) and they take it way too far despite obvious signs of egregious injury to their person is that the ski resort's fault? No, at some point it is the pare…

A closer analogy is when cigarette companies advertised to kids, covertly or even overtly.

Parents shouldn't let their kids smoke, sure. But that's not the end of the public conversation.

It's not easy or perhaps even possible for a parent's influence to outweigh social programming coming from all around.

Re: Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing

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Post by InSteady » Wed, Oct 25, 2023, 3:35 PM UTC

martin82 wrote: post #440

DougN7 wrote: post #62

Growing up, I knew maybe two or three kids that had emotional problems. Now (as an adult with grown kids) I hardly know any families that don’t have such a person. I’m sure part of it is we’re more open, which is great, but I can’t attribute all of it to that. The rising generation is really struggling. My guess is social media, but maybe it’s environmental pollution or something similar. I live in the US for what it…

It's not social media. Mental diseases are metabolic diseases. It is the food that destroys our brains and even worse, our women eat shit even during pregnancy, so the brains of newborns already start out with defects. If we were eating a proper human diet (ie beef and eggs), we would not have these issues on this scale.

Beef and eggs cured my schizophrenia!

Re: Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing

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Post by hardware2win » Wed, Oct 25, 2023, 3:42 PM UTC

LargeTomato wrote: post #447

If I let my kid have so much candy that they stop being able to control themselves and then they give themselves childhood obesity or diabetes is that the candy makers' faults? If I encourage my kid to engage in the dangerous sport of snowboarding (this is an analogy) and they take it way too far despite obvious signs of egregious injury to their person is that the ski resort's fault? No, at some point it is the pare…

Good parents do not scale

It is easier to punish fb, so we should do.

Re: Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing

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Post by InSteady » Wed, Oct 25, 2023, 3:42 PM UTC

orochimaaru wrote: post #339

Does this have merit? I don’t know if a single kid on Facebook. Maybe instagram. But primarily they’re all on TikTok and Snapchat.

There are about 73 million children in the US. I'm going to go ahead and bet that even though you don't personally know one who uses facebook, quite a few of them in fact do.

Re: Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing

#455

Post by hardware2win » Wed, Oct 25, 2023, 3:43 PM UTC

unsupp0rted wrote: post #451

LargeTomato wrote: post #447

If I let my kid have so much candy that they stop being able to control themselves and then they give themselves childhood obesity or diabetes is that the candy makers' faults? If I encourage my kid to engage in the dangerous sport of snowboarding (this is an analogy) and they take it way too far despite obvious signs of egregious injury to their person is that the ski resort's fault? No, at some point it is the pare…

A closer analogy is when cigarette companies advertised to kids, covertly or even overtly. Parents shouldn't let their kids smoke, sure. But that's not the end of the public conversation. It's not easy or perhaps even possible for a parent's influence to outweigh social programming coming from all around.

Indeed

So many parents are against smoking, yet naive teenagers still get addicted due to friends/coolness pressure

Re: Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing

#456

Post by InSteady » Wed, Oct 25, 2023, 3:50 PM UTC

cscurmudgeon wrote: post #419

Hmm, interesting, nothing against TikTok or the Fentanyl crisis?

I mean, various groups are pursuing action on both. The US government is a pretty big institution. It tends to do more than one thing at a time, you know.

Re: Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing

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Post by jklinger410 » Wed, Oct 25, 2023, 3:56 PM UTC

martin82 wrote: post #440

DougN7 wrote: post #62

Growing up, I knew maybe two or three kids that had emotional problems. Now (as an adult with grown kids) I hardly know any families that don’t have such a person. I’m sure part of it is we’re more open, which is great, but I can’t attribute all of it to that. The rising generation is really struggling. My guess is social media, but maybe it’s environmental pollution or something similar. I live in the US for what it…

It's not social media. Mental diseases are metabolic diseases. It is the food that destroys our brains and even worse, our women eat shit even during pregnancy, so the brains of newborns already start out with defects. If we were eating a proper human diet (ie beef and eggs), we would not have these issues on this scale.

Food quality, microplastics, other pollutants, unfiltered chemicals in the water supply, an inevitable outcome of late-stage capitalism, social media.

Take your pick.

Re: Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing

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Post by merdaverse » Wed, Oct 25, 2023, 4:00 PM UTC

martin82 wrote: post #440

DougN7 wrote: post #62

Growing up, I knew maybe two or three kids that had emotional problems. Now (as an adult with grown kids) I hardly know any families that don’t have such a person. I’m sure part of it is we’re more open, which is great, but I can’t attribute all of it to that. The rising generation is really struggling. My guess is social media, but maybe it’s environmental pollution or something similar. I live in the US for what it…

It's not social media. Mental diseases are metabolic diseases. It is the food that destroys our brains and even worse, our women eat shit even during pregnancy, so the brains of newborns already start out with defects. If we were eating a proper human diet (ie beef and eggs), we would not have these issues on this scale.

Can confirm this is a bullshit theory. Eating beef and eggs did not help my depression years ago. In fact, going vegan has had a positive impact on my mental health.

Re: Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing

#459

Post by Nextgrid » Wed, Oct 25, 2023, 4:01 PM UTC

LargeTomato wrote: post #447

If I let my kid have so much candy that they stop being able to control themselves and then they give themselves childhood obesity or diabetes is that the candy makers' faults? If I encourage my kid to engage in the dangerous sport of snowboarding (this is an analogy) and they take it way too far despite obvious signs of egregious injury to their person is that the ski resort's fault? No, at some point it is the pare…

Candy eating doesn't control society's social fabric though. Social media does.

Re: Meta sued by states over harmful youth marketing

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Post by mym1990 » Wed, Oct 25, 2023, 4:28 PM UTC

zerbinxx wrote: post #414

mym1990 wrote: post #393

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know which 'young people' generation you are talking about but I don't think most of them are actively comparing themselves to previous generations. It is very difficult to accurately compare my quality of life vs say my mothers. Most people are just trying to live life and get by as best as they can. If anything, older generations belittle the younger ones with the 'you've got it easy' comments. Communism ne…

Communism was/still is (depends on how you feel about China) a system that billions of people lived through. I think there’s been a great amnesia about this in younger people who’ve never met someone who interacted with Really Existing Socialism

I was born in the USSR and grew up through the restructuring following its fall. We weren't well off, and my whole family(including extended) basically lived in a 2br apartment. I don't remember feeling poor or anything, that was just the life we knew, and I don't really remember seeing people who were 'better off', but I wasn't looking for it at that age. I have recently started asking my mom about what she experienced during her work years, but that process is just starting for me.

Anywho, my reference to communism not taking off is mostly to the utopian idealogy, I understand many people live/d under communism, but it was really just socialism with some caveats.