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Unity's oldest community announces dissolution

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Post by MattRix »

bmacho wrote: post #341
MattRix wrote: post #290

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Diablo 4 was great. I put probably 50+ hours into it and enjoyed it a lot. I also completely ignored the opionion of whatever communities existed for it, because they ALWAYS complain and turn toxic, especially for Blizzard games. It’s inevitable and says very little about the actual game. Same thing happened with Overwatch 2 as well. It’s a great game yet somehow has only 10% positive reviews on Steam.

> It’s a great game yet somehow has only 10% positive reviews on Steam. Or it's an objectively very bad game that you just happen to enjoy.

It has 79% on Metacritic, which is the closest thing we have to an objective review score.

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Post by insanitybit »

tristan957 wrote: post #435
insanitybit wrote: post #398

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Is there an AGPL case that can be used to say "there's no risk" ?

MongoDB rose to fame on the back of the AGPL.

I meant a legal case. That's what lawyers are going to want - not an absence of cases but one that has already happened.

Honestly, go talk to your org's lawyer.

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Post by dredmorbius »

makeitdouble wrote: post #311
Willish42 wrote: post #45

I wish I had a large enough Twitter following to make a public claim about this before Unity "went back" on the first version of the recently-announced pricing changes, but I was nearly certain this was an intentional move to make the "Update on our update" second version more palatable. There's probably a wiki link somewhere to the Proper Noun PR phenomenon in business school for this strategy, but the "terrible pla…

I remember a game developer on a podcast saying that business relations in the field where not just about the money, and commitment and proof of perseverance was the strongest currency. Basically each game developer is gambling their time and livelyhood, and no one would start a game studio just to make money (that would be crazy given the odds). In this respect, a platform has to also show they're commited and will…

Brilliant metaphor there in the last 'graph.

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Post by ilc »

MattRix wrote: post #451
bmacho wrote: post #341

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> It’s a great game yet somehow has only 10% positive reviews on Steam. Or it's an objectively very bad game that you just happen to enjoy.

It has 79% on Metacritic, which is the closest thing we have to an objective review score.

You think critics are objective?

You think they want to pan the people handing them early review codes TOO hard given that it is how they make a living?

Often critics have little time to review a game, a few hours, etc... they have a ton of games to review, they'll use cheats in single player games, or play through on easy mode etc.

For a game like D4 that is played at the end game, and really the big problems will only show up later in the game... There's no way a review was going to be right.

Understanding what a critic can, and can not see is critical to understanding what they can tell us about a game. Personally, I give them some weight, but I've taken to waiting a bit and listening to people who love the genre speak about it.

When Raxx is panning D4... it's bad. Bad enough that 79 is a WAY overrate.

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Post by polski-g »

TylerE wrote: post #13
asynchronous wrote: post #2

Unity really showing the world how to tank a business by letting a few MBA’s at the top make a decision for profit.

To play devil's advocate... Unity isn't close to profitable, and never has been. At some point money has to be made or the lights get turned off.

They could fire 4000 employees and almost meet the count that Epic has (and who has a better engine/ecosystem)...

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Post by midoridensha »

betamist wrote: post #450
midoridensha wrote: post #445

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Online communities are communities like any other: they're a product of the people in them, and the people that control them. You may find some are more to your liking than others. There's no perfect way of doing moderation. If you don't like any kind of moderation at all, you're free to hang out on 8chan with the neo-Nazis.

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Re: Unity's oldest community announces dissolution

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Post by betamist »

midoridensha wrote: post #456
betamist wrote: post #450

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I promise you I wasn’t. This exactly what I meant. You are in favor of censoring not only the “nasty”, but also what doesn’t go along the narrative you believe in. Nothing by different between that and the church in Middle Ages.

But I’m glad we got to the point where you show your true self :) for what it’s worth, I support your right to say and disagree, tho I think you need to find a better way to express yourself.

Have a nice day!

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Post by midoridensha »

betamist wrote: post #457
midoridensha wrote: post #456

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I promise you I wasn’t. This exactly what I meant. You are in favor of censoring not only the “nasty”, but also what doesn’t go along the narrative you believe in. Nothing by different between that and the church in Middle Ages. But I’m glad we got to the point where you show your true self :) for what it’s worth, I support your right to say and disagree, tho I think you need to find a better way to express yourself.…

Yes, and you showed your true self too: you used this as an opportunity to push your anti-vax conspiracy theory bullshit. So again, go fuck yourself, troll.

Re: Unity's oldest community announces dissolution

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Post by betamist »

midoridensha wrote: post #458
betamist wrote: post #457

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I promise you I wasn’t. This exactly what I meant. You are in favor of censoring not only the “nasty”, but also what doesn’t go along the narrative you believe in. Nothing by different between that and the church in Middle Ages. But I’m glad we got to the point where you show your true self :) for what it’s worth, I support your right to say and disagree, tho I think you need to find a better way to express yourself.…

Yes, and you showed your true self too: you used this as an opportunity to push your anti-vax conspiracy theory bullshit. So again, go fuck yourself, troll.

> you used this as an opportunity to push your anti-vax conspiracy theory bullshit

I'm not anti-vax at all! What did I say that made you think so?

> So again, go fuck yourself, troll.

I'm not trolling at all. And you're breaking multiple HN guidelines in your last three replies: name-calling, dismissiveness, snark, and you're definitely not maintaining a respectful tone.

Maybe you're the one that needs to be hanging around on 8chan?

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Post by anymouse123456 »

berniedurfee wrote: post #310
anymouse123456 wrote: post #289

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I don't doubt there are plenty of experiences that went the wrong way, but wanted to share an alternative anecdote that went well. I bought a brand new ~$900 GE dishwasher last year (for a non-intended purpose) and needed to take it apart - for reasons. IMO, the engineering in this thing was just marvelous. It was almost entirely tool-free click/snap fittings for full disassembly and reassembly. The parts were good q…

You actually bought a Haier dishwasher with a GE sticker on it. It’s hard to tell these days whether you’re buying a product from a brand you trust or from a company that bought the brand you trust. Though, having said that, I recently bought a Bosch refrigerator because Bosch is still Bosch and I trusted Bosch. But the refrigerator is crap, broken on arrival and it took 5 phone calls and 3 weeks to get service.

Good point. I forgot about the Haier acquisition.

While I was pleased with this particular purchase, my ability to trust any brand in general has been diminishing with age and each new betrayal of that trust.

I have a growing heuristic that is (at least in part) inversely related to number of employees and the time a company has been publicly traded.

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