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Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by Eisenstein »

WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #437
Eisenstein wrote: post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure what you are implying but doxing has a specific meaning.

I'm making an implication about the release of private details in a public forum. Whether the public sees it as good or bad depends on the forum. eg:Pics of their home is bad on social media, good in an expose. I think it's because we realize that outcome should not be the only thing we value. Intent can heavily impact the benevolence of something.

I'm a bit confused why you felt the need to make that point. Are you saying you think documentaries are a basic privacy violation? What about journalism in general?

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by jrflowers »

Eisenstein wrote: post #451
WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #437

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm making an implication about the release of private details in a public forum. Whether the public sees it as good or bad depends on the forum. eg:Pics of their home is bad on social media, good in an expose. I think it's because we realize that outcome should not be the only thing we value. Intent can heavily impact the benevolence of something.

I'm a bit confused why you felt the need to make that point. Are you saying you think documentaries are a basic privacy violation? What about journalism in general?

I don’t think waronprivacy knows what exposé means in this context. Rather than addressing the very obvious implication that you meant a description of how a publicly traded company creates policy they found opportunity to talk about posting pictures of people’s homes online. I’m assuming they would’ve brought this up if you’d posted any other triggering key words like “newspaper” or “journalism”

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by rchaud »

int_19h wrote: post #245
rchaud wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's literally working code demos for everything on the site that's front-end or client-side.

Yes, and historically those code demos were often wrong in many important ways (like not working in all browsers, or insecure). They are much better now but reputation is hard to recover.

Wouldn't that have been the case everywhere before JS browser support standardized to ES 2015 and above?

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by teddyh »

freediver wrote: post #449
teddyh wrote: post #412

I wonder if the Kagi users approved of the publishing of this data, taken from what I assume are their personal settings in Kagi.

This, like many other Kagi features, came as a feature suggestion from the very Kagi users [1]. And the way the list is done is that it aggregates data anonymously and posts only domains that were acted upon by at least 20 users to preserve privacy. [1] https://kagifeedback.org/d/1098-a-page-for-a-list-of-sites-t...

I don’t think every single Kagi user asked for this feature, so I still wonder how those users who did not ask for the feature could approve of their private settings being used in this way.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by S201 »

nottorp wrote: post #298
S201 wrote: post #182

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> The single biggest deficiency of Kagi is Apple’s exclusive control over the list of selectable default search providers in iOS Safari. Seems like a deficiency of Apple products to me. I know it's beating a dead horse, but this is what happens when people willingly buy into a closed system they have no control over.

Funny thing is, people are buying Apple products because the alternative is Google, and why are you paying for Kagi, because you trust Google?

For what it's worth, I only buy Android phones that have unlockable bootloaders and I can root so that ultimately I have control over my own device.

But yes, I agree on how letting Apple and Google assert a level of control unparalleled in the history of computing has been a massive step backwards for our industry and consumers in general.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by barrysteve »

This is a clear violation of Kagi's privacy policy.

We will be good stewards of any personal information you share with us. We promise not to share your data with anyone else in any way, shape or form, except as needed to perform explicitly accessed services. Kagi's entire business is funded by its users and we have no intention to or interest in manipulating or monetizing user information in any way.

How many months (or years) has it been since Kagi launched and they're already using User Data to advertize on HackerNews.

Yawn.

Not a dealbreaker for me, I am still a Kagi customer. But it's clear that written promises from CEOs are empty marketing fluff and not real commitments. As it always is, on the web.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by barrysteve »

freediver wrote: post #442
rchaud wrote: post #415

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Capitalism is the only reason they exist in the first place. Precisely, which is why enshittification is a when, not an if. A paid search engine will never pick up enough users to survive at $10/mo. It will either be acquired or start throwing in "non-intrusive" ads to balance the books.

> start throwing in "non-intrusive" ads to balance the books Here is a personal guarantee that this will never happen with Kagi while I am in charge. There are too many ad-supported search engines and browsers out there. I would not waste 10 years of my life to make yet another one. If Kagi can not sustain iteself with memberships, it will be the end of it. The initial reason I started Kagi was to provide my kids wit…

You have broken your privacy policy to share user block lists as advertising on HackerNews.

Call us back in 6 months when you arbitrarily change something else and give us another motivating pep talk about your commitments. roll eyes.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by dcow »

IG_Semmelweiss wrote: post #416
dcow wrote: post #409

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Pintrest is among the top blocked. It clearly doesn't have spam, but it commonly shows up because of it’s vast array of user content. For people not interested in Pinterest content, this is a very useful feature. NYTimes is another good example, great content for subscribers, essentially useless spam in a search result for non-subscribers. The only person who can configure this is the user.

Can you shine light as to why w3schools.com is blocked and lowered so much, while most other sources of CS information are raised ? Is their information of such low quality ?

https://www.w3fools.com/

They’re better now but this is timeless.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by OJFord »

carlosjobim wrote: post #392
OJFord wrote: post #354

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I didn't say it was a 'killer feature', I said 'now I know I want it'. There are very many things I want but not at the price they cost! I don't think coffee's a great analogy - it has far more utility for me, I don't buy it as a service, and it costs me roughly £24 (what, $30ish) a month in beans. I'm not seriously suggesting it because I think comparing prices of different things to determine value very quickly get…

People always compare with Netflix, but that makes no sense at all to me. Is Kagi comparable to Netflix because they are both presented to you on a digital screen? I see nothing else that makes them comparable. Laundry detergent and breakfast cereal both come in a box in the supermarket, but it doesn't make the products comparable. A house and a car both have a door and you usually sit inside, but it doesn't make the…

I said myself that it is stupid and futile to compare things like this.

Though I'd stand by Netflix as a better comparison to Kagi than coffee (as in the comment I was replying to) to anyone who insists on doing it.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by MrVandemar »

memefrog wrote: post #399
sundarurfriend wrote: post #286

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> The top-ranked sources really show Kagi's current demographic. It obviously is attractive to programmers and IT professionals. And specifically, American programmers and IT professionals.

Specifically, American web programmers. MDN is the second-most-pinned website.

Why does MDN suggest nationality?
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