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Re: Kevin Mitnick has died

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Post by PostOnce »

wittenbunk wrote: post #403
PostOnce wrote: post #265

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None of the commenters expressing this bullshit sentiment will provide their children with 1% of the education, health, freedom, security, etc that Mitnick will have left for his child. We struggle our whole lives to provide, it looks like he already assured that for his family, even into perpetuity if managed well. It's not like he gave himself cancer on purpose and chose to leave a child with nothing out of spite.…

Right who needs a father figure when you have cash....

We don't live in an ideal world. That doesn't mean it's not worth living in.

The man didn't hang himself, he got a case of severe bad luck. I'm sure he'd be here doing the father figure stuff if he could, but if he can't, that doesn't mean the kid shouldn't have been created, and really, that's their family's own personal decision to make.

Ultimately, he did a good job for his family and the kid will be fine.

People shitting on him on the day he died for choosing to have a kid that he leaves very well taken care of just seems wrong in several different ways.

I mean, we could all be at work trying to provide for our theoretical kids right now and we're sitting here saying dumb shit on the internet instead.

Re: Kevin Mitnick has died

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Post by CPLX »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #397
jonahx wrote: post #363

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> but the flamboyant way it was done scared the crap out of people who were both clueless and in a position to do stupid things. As a result we got the CFAA and the DMCA which are both some of the most ridiculous pieces of legislation after the so called "patriot" act. > The damage that did to curious people growing up lost the US a significant fraction of their upcoming "innovation" talent. The causal leap from flam…

> The causal leap from flamboyant hackers to the DMCA/CFAA That isn't much of a leap. The penalties aren't rooted in the actual damages, because for most of this kind of curiosity-based intrusion, there isn't any real damage and the damage imputed to them is the cost of cleaning up after the vulnerability, which the "victim" ought to have paid regardless. Getting trolled by some kid isn't what costs you money, implem…

It'll make more sense when you realize that promoting the competence of American corporations is, in and of itself, an explicit policy goal of the American government.

Re: Kevin Mitnick has died

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Post by jug »

lynx23 wrote: post #377
jacurtis wrote: post #326

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I agree, this is a common narrative, that does a disservice for people that actually are consumed by the disease in the expected timeframe as if they weren't willing to fight it with sheer will. I knew a guy who was diagnosed with stomach cancer at 27 years old. Never had a health problem in his life, he didn't even know how insurance worked yet. It was late stage and he was given 6 months to live. He was recently en…

> He was diligent with everything the doctors told him I know I am going to be hated for this comment, but... Given my own experience with the medical system, I can't resist and state the (for me) obvious: Maybe that was the reason for him to pass so early... (To put my comment in context, I was abused for a medical experiment by a high ranking doctor at the age of 7, and am 100% blind since then.)

Maybe, but in by far most cases his is the correct course of action.

Re: Kevin Mitnick has died

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Post by detourdog »

noSyncCloud wrote: post #447
detourdog wrote: post #440

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At Schwab my voice is my password. Is how Schwab authenticates me by voice. That demonstrates to me schwab knows they need a voice passphrase that wouldn't be used in passing or without raising suspicion.

This comment is very hard to parse, but after reading it, I feel a general sense of relief that I'll never use Schwab.

After over 30 years of perfect service. Schwab has done something so egregious that I’m leaving them. They used to be the best bank I ever used.

Finally I’m know that passphrase is tied to my phone number. Its not perfect but it is as good as any other consumer banks system.

I don’t recommend Schwab but my accounts are as secure as any.

Re: Kevin Mitnick has died

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Post by prmoustache »

alias_neo wrote: post #396
prmoustache wrote: post #393

"He is survived by his brother-in-law, Ricky Barry and his wife Roxy" What a strange way to phrase it. Why don't they mention his sister first? Is it plain sexism or were they in bad terms?

I'm assuming you know something I don't (about who Roxy is), but it's entirely possible to have a brother-in-law married to someone that is not your sister. I have a brother-in-law; my wife's brother.

I think I simply forgot about that use case and assumed she was her sister ha ha. Makes sense indeed.

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Post by nobleach »

jhugo wrote: post #378
gabereiser wrote: post #94

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He used the CEO’s voice to access AN account, I don’t think it was the CEO’s specifically. But just an account, verified by the CEO’s voice, to his.

I doubt the bank’s authentication system is built to allow the CEO’s voice to authenticate a transfer out of any account …

I doubt it as well. Back in the day, I worked for an elected official who insisted on being a Domain Admin in our Active Directory tree. My co-worker and I used to joke, "think he wants to be a Schema Admin too?"

Re: Kevin Mitnick has died

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Post by Aerbil313 »

fsckboy wrote: post #350
ChristianGeek wrote: post #307

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Being physically abusive automatically cancels any credits you may have for any other qualities.

that's incredibly simplistic and lacking in empathy. there are people with serious psychological disorders such that they can't control negative impulses and behaviors. Some people are born or develop an empathy void, but they are still human beings. Yes, we need to make sure they don't harm others, but pissing on them doesn't help you or anyone else, so why do it? All men are created equal, judge not lest ye be judg…

The comment you’re replying to was not serious. It’s irony highlighting the nonsensicality of the replied sentiment.

Re: Kevin Mitnick has died

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Post by [deleted] »

logicchains wrote: post #421
lynx23 wrote: post #413

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I expected nothing else but downvotes. It is pretty representative for the times that peopel can not stand viewpoints which do not align with their own. And no, I am not going to post my personal medical history on HN in detail. My short description of the incident is already personal enough. Besides, what would that help? Everyone picks their own convenient opinion these days, all that can come out of this is that p…

Statistically, medical error is the third leading cause of death in America, so it's not surprising.

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Re: Kevin Mitnick has died

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Post by madacol »

jfk13 wrote: post #441
logicchains wrote: post #421

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Statistically, medical error is the third leading cause of death in America, so it's not surprising.

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/critical-thinking-health/m...

My takeaway from that article are these important criticisms:

- Correlation is not causation: A medical error, followed by a death does not implies medical error caused death

- The study that claim is based (BMJ analysis), suggest that 62% of US hospital deaths are caused by medical errors. Which seems hard to believe, especially having similar studies instead suggesting a 3.6% in UK, 4.6% in Norway, and 5% in a meta study

- Experts do not agree which facts are medical errors

Most (All?) other claims were about high uncertainty. Small Ns and possible biases in the samples, many obvious and others even irrelevant criticisms

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There's still a lot of uncertainty, even in the criticisms.

I think they could have easily made estimations with the UK, Norway and meta study hospital data to have a minimum estimate of medical errors to counter BMJ analysis with a more reasonable number.

We really should calculate more and talk less (I am already sinning with this comment --_(=/)_--)

Re: Kevin Mitnick has died

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Post by r3vo »

CaliforniaKarl wrote: post #296
r3vo wrote: post #156

Worth noting that Wikipedia at the time of this post is refusing to acknowledge his death, citing poor sources. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kevin_Mitnick&act... Hope he is alive and well. May he rest in peace if not

The New York Times has their obituary up: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/20/technology/kevin-mitnick-... RIP

Rest in peace :(
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