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Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by mullingitover »

thrashh wrote: post #443
irishloop wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see any evidence Musk understands what made Twitter great, either. At this point, someone just needs to stand up a Twitter clone that can handle the traffic because I think most regular Twitter users are having a much worse experience on there now -- from my own anecdotal experience as a semi-heavy twitter user.

I’m not a fan of Musk but Musk isn’t trying to make Twitter better… He’s trying to make Twitter able to pay its own bills. Twitter has never made money (except once) in its 17 years of existence. Twitter as it was should not exist. It’s like a bakery that sells loaves for bread for 20c at a loss. It’s going to eventually implode unless something changes.

> He’s trying to make Twitter able to pay its own bills.

He could've bought seats on the board to accomplish this through standard shareholder activism. By committing a leveraged buyout and saddling the company with an additional >1 billion a year in added debt payments, while simultaneously driving advertising revenue into the ground, he's basically sent the company on a beeline toward insolvency.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by john_max_1 »

vineyardmike wrote: post #192
john_max_1 wrote: post #172

When was the last time, Facebook launched a successful standalone product? - WhatsApp - acqusition - Instagram - acquistion - Messenger - acquisition - Oculus - acquisition Facebook has DNA to optimize feeds. It, simply, lack the DNA to build good products from scratch. My gut feeling no one will care about Threads, 6 months from now. EDIT: - Facebook was all-in on cryptocurrencies. The project is fully gone. - Faceb…

How was messenger an acquisition? wasn't it simply taking FaceBook Chats and making it a standalone app? It seems that meta just has a very curated list of products, and most seem to be hits, and most seem to be regularly iterated upon. > Facebook has DNA to optimize feeds. Isn't that the exact thing that Threads would need to succeed? It's a new feeds-based app, piggybacking their existing social graph. That means y…

> Isn't that the exact thing that Threads would need to succeed? It's a new feeds-based app, piggybacking their existing social graph. That means you have followers/following immediately.

Remember Facebook Watch (videos) - https://www.facebook.com/help/609563009232602

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by john_max_1 »

john_max_1 wrote: post #172

When was the last time, Facebook launched a successful standalone product? - WhatsApp - acqusition - Instagram - acquistion - Messenger - acquisition - Oculus - acquisition Facebook has DNA to optimize feeds. It, simply, lack the DNA to build good products from scratch. My gut feeling no one will care about Threads, 6 months from now. EDIT: - Facebook was all-in on cryptocurrencies. The project is fully gone. - Faceb…

To add more examples of standalone apps that failed

  1. Facebook Gaming app - https://techcrunch.com/2022/08/30/meta-shutting-down-facebook-gaming-app/
  2. Facebook livestreaming app - https://techcrunch.com/2022/08/05/meta-testing-livestreaming-platform-influencers-super/
  3. Facebook Events - https://www.theverge.com/2016/10/7/13192918/facebook-events-app-ios-android

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by wraptile »

tedunangst wrote: post #283
w-m wrote: post #18

Any guesses on how much you'll be able to read, when following a link with a Desktop browser? Half a thread, or more? Before the inevitable full-page login overlay hits you straight in the face, as they always tend to do.

When, or if, they support activitypub you'll be able to read posts in the json viewer of your choice.

Or any custom front-end! Honestly if threads supports activitypub then Twitter is gone just like that - they show that they can afford to do everything Twitter does and without the lockdowns, whining and negging.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by CameronNemo »

gochi wrote: post #133
publius_0xf3 wrote: post #118

I was never able to create an Instagram account because Instagram would just instantly ban any account I created for paranoid anti-spam reasons. Apparently this is [a common problem]( https://old.reddit.com/r/Instagram/comments/85wbk1/banned_im... ). So I'm not looking forward to trying to sign up with them.

They also instantly reverse that if you follow the email prompt/mobile prompt. No idea why they decided to handle anti-spam that way.

Yeah but it feels a bit like being negged. Like they can't just say "this is the process to make an account". They have to say " you are faaaakkeee prove to me you're real!".

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by rvz »

mullingitover wrote: post #93

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

I thought many here were saying Meta was 'dying' a year ago because of Zuckerberg, layoffs, etc. Now they are changing their opinions and predictions like the weather, based on emotion and supporting the further monopolization of social networks?

> I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer.

More like it destroys Substack Notes, Post, T2, Hive.social and all the other so-called 'alternatives'.

The same people who incorrectly predicted Twitter's immediate collapse are now furious that didn't happen. Now we see them hastefully predicting the end of Twitter again. It is quite hilarious and this will age extremely poorly.

This actually also destroys and corrupts Mastodon from the inside out as they are split in federating or de-federating with Meta already as many admins signed NDAs with Meta to have no choice but to federate.

It seems HNers here really don't understand what network effects are. Quite very fixated and emotional about Twitter's immediate collapse (that didn't happen) and constantly don't learn from history and just continue to make up fantasies on the spot and blinded by schadenfreude.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by avinoth »

As others here pointed out, Meta does not have a good history of launching completely new products separately and succeeding in it (except FB ofc). So it’s a wait and see.

If they’re going to ride on the coattails of the existing influencers, might make more sense to keep it a feature than a brand new app. The existing influencers would have no extra incentive to spend efforts on a whole new app if they’re addressing the same audience and won’t be gaining new set of audience.

Or keep it completely new to excite new wannabe influencers and they will put in the extra effort and drive activity at the beginning.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by andsoitis »

babl-yc wrote: post #111
mullingitover wrote: post #93

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

The key thing for me is whether it's really a text focused app or they ruin it by trying to cross promote Instagram/Reels and turn it into a mindless time suck. If they get the little details right, I see this as the only real competition to Twitter right now. After trying Mastodon for a few months, it's certainly not it.

> text focused app

what ratio of tweets are rich media vs. text?

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by [deleted] »

interestica wrote: post #194
mullingitover wrote: post #93

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

I feel like Twitter could have launched “Nests” (flocks?) to replace subreddits in the face of a Reddit exodus and pretty much just reskinned twitter for the specific use case. Hashtags as top level organizing taxonomy (to replace subreddit). Then tweets as your “posts” with nested replies. Twitter had the infrastructure to just hit the ground running too.

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