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How to Do Great Work

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Re: How to Do Great Work

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My problem with Paul Graham's work is he keeps pushing on nature over nurture. Most work can actually be learned and you don't need a "natural aptitude" for it. This is especially true of knowledge work like programming, but also true of things like 'musical' or 'acting' or anything else. Most things can be learned. I wish Paul Graham would stop pushing that silly outdated concept of "natural aptitude".

IMO this comment goes too far in the other direction. There is a lot of "natural aptitude" in what we can learn, and more specifically, what we can learn to do well . I can theoretically learn ballet, but I have no "natural aptitude" and so I will never be even OK at it. Similarly, my wife could try to learn programming, but her brain isn't able to make sense of how programming works. The big thing is that just becau…

Have you tried ballet? Has your wife tried programming? Seems this is all just speculation if I were a betting man.

This mindset you have is called a fixed mindset.

https://online.hbs.edu/blog/post/growth-mindset-vs-fixed-min...

I could teach anyone programming including your wife. The mechanics of it are easy. The hard part is building things that matter.

Re: How to Do Great Work

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fourth type is when someone else does the great work and you get the credit

Fifth type is when do something crappy but then someone else looks at it and for whatever reason they think it's great.

That's good marketing.

Re: How to Do Great Work

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Exactly, I'd reckon you have a better position to do great work when you are older, given you know yourself better and what makes you tick. This is IMO impossible without experimentation and doing stupid stuff during the 20s. I just turned 35 and only starting out on the best work of my life in the shape of offering something of value except for just my time at work prior.

have you got any kids? I'm 30 and one of my biggest worries is that starting a family will mean I will never get the time to do great things. I also got a fair share of skills under my belt and a lot of motivation. My relationship always ends to taking time away from my projects however and that's only going to get worse once there's a kid 5 years down the road. Then again Bach had a lot of kids, and look at the body…

There are two peaks of entrepreneurship, the 20's and the 40's. Catch the second peak.

Re: How to Do Great Work

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have you got any kids? I'm 30 and one of my biggest worries is that starting a family will mean I will never get the time to do great things. I also got a fair share of skills under my belt and a lot of motivation. My relationship always ends to taking time away from my projects however and that's only going to get worse once there's a kid 5 years down the road. Then again Bach had a lot of kids, and look at the body…

There are two peaks of entrepreneurship, the 20's and the 40's. Catch the second peak.

this makes me smile, thank you

Re: How to Do Great Work

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Exactly, I'd reckon you have a better position to do great work when you are older, given you know yourself better and what makes you tick. This is IMO impossible without experimentation and doing stupid stuff during the 20s. I just turned 35 and only starting out on the best work of my life in the shape of offering something of value except for just my time at work prior.

have you got any kids? I'm 30 and one of my biggest worries is that starting a family will mean I will never get the time to do great things. I also got a fair share of skills under my belt and a lot of motivation. My relationship always ends to taking time away from my projects however and that's only going to get worse once there's a kid 5 years down the road. Then again Bach had a lot of kids, and look at the body…

Was about to respond but somebody did it already below (mkoubaa) :)

Re: How to Do Great Work

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I respect Paul and everything that he writes, even if I don’t agree with it. It takes some serious stones to publish your thoughts on the internet - whether people agree or not. In any case. This seems like a continuation of the never ending quest for people to sacrifice themselves for the betterment of a corporate profit they will never see. I’m not interested in eliminating the ceiling - I want to raise the floor.…

I think this essay applies not only on business but also your craft.

If you like painting, work on your craft, not for the sake of betterment but for the sake of joy and appreciation for your craft.

If its weightlifting work on it for the sake of yourself.

IMO this applies to everything you do.

Re: How to Do Great Work

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I'm surprised how many negative responses this essay has received. If you read it as prescriptive, "Do these steps and you will achieve greatness," then yeah obviously he is skimping on the "why" of it all. But as he says at the very top, this essay is actually descriptive. This is an analysis of how great work comes about, based on looking at many cases of "it." Your own mileage may vary.

For my part, I found it perfectly thought provoking; not a strict roadmap to follow, but a set of observations against which to measure my own experiences and ideas, and see if I can't improve on what works for me. I appreciate anyone who is trying to dig deeper into how human beings can better themselves and create meaning in our indifferent universe.

Re: How to Do Great Work

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Maybe hard work has gone out of style? Yesterday I poured over two companies documentation. About 200 pages of their API docs only to find: Dozen of typos. Errors in versions. Conflicts in examples. Broken examples. I barely invest in this much reading but this time I did because I was trying to deliver and sure enough I'm able to benefit our entire product because of this effort.

By the way, and only because your comment suggests you care about detail and will find this valuable: it’s “pored over” unless there was a liquid you were dumping on them.

Thank you. I didn't know that was the correct spelling.

Re: How to Do Great Work

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I respect Paul and everything that he writes, even if I don’t agree with it. It takes some serious stones to publish your thoughts on the internet - whether people agree or not. In any case. This seems like a continuation of the never ending quest for people to sacrifice themselves for the betterment of a corporate profit they will never see. I’m not interested in eliminating the ceiling - I want to raise the floor.…

> I am frustrated that the USA’s money advice largely comes from billionaires. One of my big issues with the 'follow your passion' advice is it almost always comes from people who are already rich. And, those people are often trying to leverage worker passion to staff their companies. As a young person, don't follow your passion. Instead, figure out the fastest way to economic security and once there, then figure out…

> And, those people are often trying to leverage worker passion to staff their companies.

Is there usually a good reason for an average employee to pour their passion into work? Seems like it's better to do a better job than your peers/coworkers but not shoot for the moon, unless you're getting a significant amount of that profit.

Most passions I see are usually poured into something separate from your earning potential, i.e. working a service job while writing music, auditioning for a movie or play, etc.

Unless they can afford to go all in, via startup funding or savings while working on their own project.

Re: How to Do Great Work

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I don't really follow. You've quoted a few statements and I also don't know what you mean by a specific object level problem. Is it that it would be hard to convince people there's endless complexity in this domain while they're deciding what to get for lunch? Yeah, probably. They're too hungry.

There are certain complexities that only seem (currently) accessible from an abstract state of mind. For example, people (including right here on HN) will often enthusiastically agree that they are subjective to various cognitive flaws when discussing a psychology paper on the subject, but this fact typically cannot be realized or even considered when discussing specific political matters. Ironically, genuine intelli…

oh gosh I understand now and totally agree. I want to wire up an LLM to read a doc and just point out all of these sorts of flaws.

If you haven't read this (not LLM related), I highly recommend it: https://statweb.stanford.edu/~cgates/PERSI/papers/thinking.p...

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