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Does Reddit owe them anything? Didn’t think so.
People delete posts for all kinds of reasons - including accidentally violating NDA, or posting NSFW pics you no longer want "out there". Undeleting this stuff is opening Pandora's Box.
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Don't remember where I heard this, but I've always held the idea that anything you type into a text box, whether you remove it before hitting "cancel", delete it after submitting, or edit it, should be considered non-revocable and "out there". IIRC Facebook got caught recording what users typed up, changed their mind, and never thought they were submitting?
I've had interviews with programming challenges and they recorded every single keystroke. Not sure how legal that is.
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This will be interesting if reddit conducts business (sells ads) in the EU. Hard to see how having such old backups of user content isn't in violation of the GDPR.
How do you work GDPR in the context of a site like Wikipedia where the data is licensed CC and iterated on repeatedly by other users in the future? Do you have to flatly delete every sentence (or word) they’ve worked on? Does publishing the dataset as CC sidestep GDPR? Because Reddit has published their dataset via fh-bigquery:Reddit in the past etc. Using GDPR adversarially like this is interesting and I’m not sure…
That said things like the talk pages might fall under the GDPR - though one could argue that talk pages and edit history has a public value and so overrides the GDPR.
As for logging IPs, that is something no one is generally allowed to do indefinitely - you need an overriding reason - like an audit trail for security and spam/abuse prevention - but that will generally only allow for 6 months at a maximum.
Wow wow, Isn't this the violation of the Europen GDPR privacy laws. If you deletd it then they should actually be deleted, otherwise you are violating the laws.
The reddit FAQ around deleting your account[0] suggests that they'll just 'dissociate' your posts from your account (so the user says [deleted]) and remove your account data which should be fine for GDPR purposes.
This[1] support page says mods/admins can't recover your deleted posts for you but stops a little short of saying that it's impossible for them to do it for themselves.
So pretty scummy behaviour but I don't think anything they're doing is illegal (IANAL!).
[0] https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/36004304793... [1] https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/36004348345...
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That's crazy, most of the comments I read are months if not years old.
Exactly. And it's so sad when I find a thread that clearly had exactly the answer I was looking for to a question, with somebody replying "thanks so much that answers it perfectly!" only the answer itself was deleted. :(
[1] https://old.reddit.com/r/avoidchineseproducts/comments/eh80f...
...and I just wrote a script to go through and delete them all again. What was accomplished?
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Innocent until proven guilty can be a decent philosophy even outside the courtroom. Especially when tensions are high. Both sides giving the other the benefit of the doubt can help to deescalate. Unless the objective isn't to deescalate.
Except in this case, we have a proven bad faith actor with a pension for deceit and vindictive behavior.
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People delete posts for all kinds of reasons - including accidentally violating NDA, or posting NSFW pics you no longer want "out there". Undeleting this stuff is opening Pandora's Box.
It’s naive to think deleting solves the problem. Once you post something on the internet, it’s out there forever potentially. Someone could easily saved whatever you posted, even if it’s under NDA or it’s a NSFW pic.
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Completely restored to the overwritten value you set before deleting, or completely restored to the actual original content as people have speculated could happen?
For my account, it restored to the actual original content, not the overwritten.
This more or less tends to confirm that Reddit management handed down a mandate to restore everything being deleted, not only recently but going back as far as they have backups.
The restoration isn't perfect; it doesn't patch back the posts into your timeline, so when you search for your own posts, it appears empty. That is probably deliberate, the idea being that people don't notice the reverts.
When I re-delete a post manually, that action seems to stick. But for how long; they will probably be repeatedly restoring old posts from backups from now on.
Luckily, I have every single link to each one of my deleted posts. I told Shreddit to save them. The numerous .json files have all the info to re-delete the posts. Shreddit can be modified (or else a new program written) to use the .json files as input rather than obtaining a list of posts from the API.