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Reddit subs with millions of followers plan to extend the blackout indefinitely

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Re: Reddit subs with millions of followers plan to extend the blackout indefinitely

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The mods have virtually no control over the situation. Reddit can change their passwords and just have employee moderators from now on. If I was running Reddit, this is what I would be planning right now.

This whole thing was about small sums of money. Reddit isn’t profitable. And now it’s going to pay an army of moderators? Yeah, good luck.

Re: Reddit subs with millions of followers plan to extend the blackout indefinitely

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Jeez, now he was the head mod of r/jailbait? This game of telephone is ridiculous. There’s no need to slander the guy with false information. Reddit used to allow the moderators of a subreddit to automatically make someone a moderator of that subreddit. Then, as things like people being added as an r/jailbait mod against their wishes became widespread, Reddit changed to an invite system which required a user to accep…

I disagree on the 'lying about the Apollo dev'. The Apollo dev definitely said 'I can make it real easy for you', 'Apollo can quiet down' 'you cut me a check for $10m' then he tried to backtrack when pushed on clarification for a 3rd time. Yes - there was an apology by the Reddit rep as far as misinterpreting but he did say what he was accused of saying. Spinning it to the dev saying he was referring to Apollo as a "…

I really do not read the Apollo dev anywhere close to what you do. I read it has him writing that to make a point, not that it was actually a serious offer. I have no idea why you would think anything like that would be a serious offer. Or why a serious offer would be made in public like that.

Re: Reddit subs with millions of followers plan to extend the blackout indefinitely

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post #368

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It's content generated by users, and it's the source of the content that matters, not the source of the moderation. There's no generally accepted interpretation of 230 that restricts site owners from moderating user comments. https://www.eff.org/issues/cda230 "Section 230 allows for web operators, large and small, to moderate user speech and content as they see fit." See again the FB/Twitter examples I linked - those…

People act like Facebook doesn’t pay their moderators or something. Paid moderation doesn’t make them liable for what users post. People are coping super hard.

Let's keep that kind of insulting language away from Hacker News.

Re: Reddit subs with millions of followers plan to extend the blackout indefinitely

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... until they just take over the moderation of their largest communities and this whole thing ends. I mean what's so magical about the moderation of something like r/videos other than the mods being free labor for Reddit?

I think you underestimate the value of that free labor. Reddit isn't even profitable. Hiring mods for thousands of subreddits would cost them a ton of money, not only in wages but in the cost of finding and training those workers. Beyond that, the minute the mods are official employees of Reddit, Reddit is fully responsible for all the content on all those subs. Social media companies are already under a lot of scrut…

Surely they can outsource mods from poor countries to do a half decent job for just a few hundred dollars a month

Re: Reddit subs with millions of followers plan to extend the blackout indefinitely

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Let me know if my math is wrong: it means that 5 people are on the moderation team of 18.4 subs. The 500 top subs often have mod teams from 20 to 50 people. Bringing up that stat doesn't seem really relevant.

I'm saying it probably doesn't take much man power to moderate these subreddits as you might think. Bring in a team of 5-10 full time workers would probably be enough, tbh.

And then what about all of the rest of Reddit? Let it become unmoderated hell?

Re: Reddit subs with millions of followers plan to extend the blackout indefinitely

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I think you underestimate the value of that free labor. Reddit isn't even profitable. Hiring mods for thousands of subreddits would cost them a ton of money, not only in wages but in the cost of finding and training those workers. Beyond that, the minute the mods are official employees of Reddit, Reddit is fully responsible for all the content on all those subs. Social media companies are already under a lot of scrut…

if they takeover a few of the higher value subs the majority of moderators will likely fall into line

Why would they? I would expect them to rebel harder.

Re: Reddit subs with millions of followers plan to extend the blackout indefinitely

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post #16

They're getting away with this because there really is no serious competitor for reddit. When people actually start migrating away from reddit and post/comment volume is significantly down, you'll see reddit suddenly be a lot more willing to engage with the community.

You’re right due to the network effects Reddit currently enjoys. Personally, I’ve quite enjoyed using tildes.net lately. I know everyone is jumping on Lemmy and federation, which is great in practice but Tildes feels more accessible to me and for that reason may have more potential to actually capture a user base.

bruh they run on donations which means similar thing like reddit will happen again when they have to scale up.
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