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Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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From someone who ignored the iphone because I didn't think it was going to be a big deal and hopefully learned a lesson. OTOH, 12 milliseconds in the AR mode doesn't sound fast to me. I'm not in this space as other than a past oculus owner, but that is 8 frames of latency at 60hz. I thought that the best devices were much less these days.

12ms is 1 frame of latency at 90 Hz.

Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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post #182

The hardware is no doubt impressive, as expected, but I just can't see myself in any of the situations they keep showing in VR/AR demos. Does someone really sit on their couch, put on a massive headset, and scroll through their vacation photos? Does someone watch an entire 2+ hour movie with a sweaty headset strapped to them (and plugged into a socket) instead of on a couch with their family/friends? Would I want to…

> Does someone watch an entire 2+ hour movie with a sweaty headset strapped to them (and plugged into a socket) instead of on a couch with their family/friends?

Some of us don't have local friends we want to sit down and watch a movie with; and some of us don't have local friends at all.

I know people who already watch whole movies, etc, in VRChat. This usecase already exists.

Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

#453

I use Meta Quest 2 on an average around an hour a day - workouts, Netflix, Youtube etc. I am really excited but Vision Pro, but $3500 is a bit too high for me. I am now eagerly waiting for what Meta Quest 3 has in store for us. I'll just upgrade to that for now and will wait for Vision Pro cost to come down.

Yep. I’m planning the same thing.

Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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post #182

The hardware is no doubt impressive, as expected, but I just can't see myself in any of the situations they keep showing in VR/AR demos. Does someone really sit on their couch, put on a massive headset, and scroll through their vacation photos? Does someone watch an entire 2+ hour movie with a sweaty headset strapped to them (and plugged into a socket) instead of on a couch with their family/friends? Would I want to…

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Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

#455

IMO what makes Apple different and more likely to succeed than Meta is that they are pursuing more concrete scenarios like viewing content in a more immersive environment or spinning up a large viewing surface where you may have none . Meta's problem is this focus around social interactions which just isn't taking hold apart from a niche audience of enthusiasts. Having tried the Quest Pro, if Meta pursued the remote…

Exactly ! The social stuff requires a network effect... hilarious that the makers of Facebook bet their chips on the same bet as their existing products. Apple knows it doesn't need groups of people to use this together, just enough early adopters to help pay for (and more importantly help guide) the user research and material advancement.

Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

#456

From someone who ignored the iphone because I didn't think it was going to be a big deal and hopefully learned a lesson. OTOH, 12 milliseconds in the AR mode doesn't sound fast to me. I'm not in this space as other than a past oculus owner, but that is 8 frames of latency at 60hz. I thought that the best devices were much less these days.

60hz is 16.7ms per frame. How are you getting 8?

Re: Apple Vision Pro: Apple’s first spatial computer

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post #197

Think before you post. Remember, whatever opinions or hot takes you have of this product now will be resoundingly made fun of for the rest of history.

I mean its pretty clear how this stuff goes by now.

1. Tech already exists. Not really widely adopted since its super niche.

2. Apple comes along, takes existing tech, makes it sleek, gives it modern processing power, integrates it into the apple ecosystem, puts everything behind a paywall

3. Because Apple is cool and has brand recognition, people adopt the tech and start using it.

4. Non Apple cheaper alternatives eventually pop up.

Rinse and repeat. Happened with iPod, iPhone, iWatch, e.t.c

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