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Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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I have commented on SF threads before regarding the violent crime. I don't think we have figured out if this was premeditated or not, but either way, SF is becoming incredibly dangerous. Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent crime. Many of my friends have taken their remote gigs and left SF in the last 3 years. What's the point in rolling the dice every time you walk outsid…

It’s of questionable taste to use someone’s death to advance your politics when the facts are known and can be fairly used as evidence that your tribe is right about something. It’s in poor taste indeed to acknowledge that you don’t know the facts of a murder, and to still insist that the killing supports your politics.

Right.

“Just part & parcel of living in a _big city_.”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3801018/Terror-atta...

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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I am very spoiled by living in one of the European capitals. It's super safe here, and it's normal thing to see young females taking a dog out for a walk in 22-02h. I visit SF at least once a year, and default to my learned habit of walking alone, and later at night. No more.

Many years ago my dad worked for a british company. Some of his coworkers were traveling to DC for business and staying in a very nice hotel. They asked my dad if they should buy a gun to be safe in DC. He was floored. No. Jesus Christ. Violence exists. You can compare risk between places and activities. But decisions should be based on data, not headlines and hunches.

The ridiculous part of that story is the expectation that they could just buy a gun and walk around with it in DC. Concealed carrying is a viable option but not something you can do after you simply walk off a plane.

Also, walking around and taking care of yourself is just not in the realm of known data. You should consider the known data, sure, but don’t ignore your instincts on the ground. That is insane.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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I am very spoiled by living in one of the European capitals. It's super safe here, and it's normal thing to see young females taking a dog out for a walk in 22-02h. I visit SF at least once a year, and default to my learned habit of walking alone, and later at night. No more.

I like Europe but you're exaggerating...I got robbed in Amsterdam and could have been stabbed to death in Frankfurt. London felt dicey in certain spots too (turns out it has 95\1000 rate which is 20% higher than the average in the UK)...To anybody traveling through Europe you've got to be aware of your surroundings because it's not always super safe and there can high risk of crime in tourist areas.

I also came terrifyingly close to becoming a stab victim in Frankfurt. Those blocks around the train station are as hard as any place I've been.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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> A friend who was planning to meet Lee in Miami this weekend told The Standard that Lee had been in San Francisco on business, had stayed an extra day and was killed on that day. I am genuinely curious to know how SF residents feel about this.

Sadness and anger about a murder.

This thread is 90%+ people denying the very existence of a problem.

Last time I was in SF, people were shocked that I felt less comfortable than I do in Detroit. Detroit doesn't tolerate half the shit SF does - no encampments, no wandering screamers, etc. Yes, violent and organized crime is much higher - but when you're QOL is lower than the symbol of urban decline........

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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post #415

I am very spoiled by living in one of the European capitals. It's super safe here, and it's normal thing to see young females taking a dog out for a walk in 22-02h. I visit SF at least once a year, and default to my learned habit of walking alone, and later at night. No more.

I like Europe but you're exaggerating...I got robbed in Amsterdam and could have been stabbed to death in Frankfurt. London felt dicey in certain spots too (turns out it has 95\1000 rate which is 20% higher than the average in the UK)...To anybody traveling through Europe you've got to be aware of your surroundings because it's not always super safe and there can high risk of crime in tourist areas.

You might be the most unlucky person on Earth. European cities are almost universally safer than American cities. To which cities are you comparing Amsterdam, Frankfurt, and London?

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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People in big cities get mugged, sometimes violently. This happened in Republican led cities when I was young. It happens in Democratic led cities now. It happens in London. It happens in Moscow. You can have policy differences with the government of San Francisco, but please don't capitalize on this tragic death to advance them. It's exploitive and disrespectful to Bob Lee's family. I know I'm whistling in the wind,…

It’s not every day that a big tech exec gets stabbed and killed. It’s like a bank exec getting mugged in nyc, it just doesn’t happen.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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I have commented on SF threads before regarding the violent crime. I don't think we have figured out if this was premeditated or not, but either way, SF is becoming incredibly dangerous. Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent crime. Many of my friends have taken their remote gigs and left SF in the last 3 years. What's the point in rolling the dice every time you walk outsid…

> I don't think we have figured out if this was premeditated or not, but either way, SF is becoming incredibly dangerous. Jesus, the bubble the typical HN SV commenter must live in. I'm sure it's frustrating to see crime rates increase, but "incredibly dangerous?" SF still has far less crime per capita than many of its peer cities. Where are all the displaced SV millionaires moving with dramatically lower crime rates…

Your denial of plain facts is what’s “incredibly dangerous”

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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This feels like a heartless take; your condolences go to the murderer/city/activists, but not to those who knew and loved the man that actually died? I'm not arguing that the murderer and city don't have big problems, but to call them the "real victims" just feels strange.
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