IPCC climate crisis report delivers ‘final warning on 1.5C’ • Hacker News Board

Re: IPCC climate crisis report delivers ‘final warning on 1.5C’

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Post by fwlr » Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 2:08 PM UTC

antisthenes wrote: post #450

fwlr wrote: post #424

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If you read my original comment more closely you’ll see I have no trouble with the complexity of the reality of climate change, and what I am taking issue with is the annoying method of communication of predictions about that reality, communication that resembles nothing so much as systematized crying wolf. I’m not even asking for it to stop, or threatening to spitefully disbelieve in climate change because of it, I’…

> I don’t have anything productive or polite to say about you misinterpreting my comment as climate denial It's good to know you've at least returned the favor in misinterpreting my comment in kind. > what I am taking issue with is the annoying method of communication of predictions about that reality, communication that resembles nothing so much as systematized crying wolf. I’m not even asking for it to stop, or thr…

It’s not petty or ludicrous to ask for messaging about climate change to be slightly kinder, or to come with a bit of empathy for how exhausting the messaging is. It is petty and ludicrous to say that if someone is bothered by the messaging then they deserve nothing but mockery.

Re: IPCC climate crisis report delivers ‘final warning on 1.5C’

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Post by barbazoo » Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 4:29 PM UTC

mulmen wrote: post #429

barbazoo wrote: post #426

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> This is false. Fahrenheit is commonly used in Canada to this day. At least where I am, Celsius is the unit of choice, even among the older generation.

Even in the kitchen?

You're right, our oven and most recipes are in Fahrenheit. My kettle though is in Celsius :)

Re: IPCC climate crisis report delivers ‘final warning on 1.5C’

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Post by brnt » Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 5:42 PM UTC

revelio wrote: post #411

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #275

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> climate change tends to correlate extremely well with war and famine and migration.

No it doesn't, that's just people trying to tie together two hobby-horses. Nobody is migrating to Europe or America because of climate change, they're migrating because of wealth and war.

The Syrian conflict started after 4 or so successive years of crop failures, which have been linked to desertification and climate change.

Re: IPCC climate crisis report delivers ‘final warning on 1.5C’

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Post by revelio » Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 10:44 PM UTC

brnt wrote: post #453

revelio wrote: post #411

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No it doesn't, that's just people trying to tie together two hobby-horses. Nobody is migrating to Europe or America because of climate change, they're migrating because of wealth and war.

The Syrian conflict started after 4 or so successive years of crop failures, which have been linked to desertification and climate change.

You don't think that had more to do with ISIS than climate change?

Re: IPCC climate crisis report delivers ‘final warning on 1.5C’

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Post by mulmen » Thu, Mar 23, 2023, 12:18 PM UTC

barbazoo wrote: post #452

mulmen wrote: post #429

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Even in the kitchen?

You're right, our oven and most recipes are in Fahrenheit. My kettle though is in Celsius :)

Hah, how strange. An exception to the exception. I find all this history very interesting. The US gets a lot of blame for delaying Canadian metrication but looking at the timelines the opposite seems equally plausible.

Re: IPCC climate crisis report delivers ‘final warning on 1.5C’

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Post by brnt » Thu, Mar 23, 2023, 5:31 PM UTC

revelio wrote: post #454

brnt wrote: post #453

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The Syrian conflict started after 4 or so successive years of crop failures, which have been linked to desertification and climate change.

You don't think that had more to do with ISIS than climate change?

ISIS came after the breakdown of society due to crop failure after crop failure.

Migration started end masse after Russia was invited over to kill every civilian in sight. But that is also after Assad lost the ability to control and feed the population, something he wasn't doing very well anyway, granted, but without climate change related failed harvests its hard to imagine it had spiralled out of control.