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YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

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Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki is stepping down

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Post by bagacrap »

est wrote: post #432

google might have a chance to win the LLM battle, to train multi-modal LLM based on youtube videos, which is a huge advantage over Microsoft. OpenAI's Codex model got the reasoning ability through github. LLM could learn so much more with real-life videos in an embodied way.

That would require better speech recognition. Judging by automated subtitles, it's not there yet. And I don't think YouTube videos tend to have better veracity than the web at large.

Maybe YouTube videos can be used to train models on how to verbally present information in a compelling way, but I don't see how it would make an AI better at generating written text.

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Post by medion »

justapassenger wrote: post #242
8f2ab37a-ed6c wrote: post #140

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Same, huge youtube premium fanboy. YouTube has pretty much replaced Netflix and all the other streaming platforms for me, the content it has is more varied and interesting than yet another generic new IP play. Although it doesn't have classic time-tested movies, so that still requires a subscription somewhere.

Premium moved me from being a consumer of a content made by big companies (including movies, and most of the shows) towards more independent content creators. I couldn't be more happy about it.

How do YouTube creators get paid from premium subscribers, is it fractions of a cent per minute watched or something?

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Post by notatoad »

jossclimb wrote: post #103
mkaic wrote: post #69

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Agreed. I am a massive fan of YouTube Premium and YouTube Music. While I am a bit nervous because major change like this could lead to those products getting worse, I'm also hopeful that it could lead to them getting better! So in general I'm just eager to see what happens next, come what may.

can you sell it to a current spotify user?

the sales pitch is that for $15 instead of $10, you get ad-free youtube as well as everything spotify gives you.

but the reality is that you're losing spotify radio and recommendations, and replacing it with youtube music's radio stations and recommendations. and for me, i found that spotify introduces me to a lot of new and interesting music that i wouldn't otherwise find, and youtube picks a dozen songs every month it wants to play, and regardless of what station i choose it plays those same songs.

for me, i'm currently paying for both because i like youtube premium, but the music offering doesn't replace spotify.

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Post by bagacrap »

sammalloy wrote: post #424
voisin wrote: post #30

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Fear not! Just serve more ads before and between every video! Sacrifice your user at the altar of advertisers and all will be fine in the world.

YouTube is almost unwatchable. The show I’m viewing now has an ad every minute or so. I don’t see how they will survive another few years. They’ve literally angered their user base to the point of abandoning the platform.

You can't afford $9 a month or whatever it is to remove the ads? What other service are you planning to use instead that has no ads and no subscription fee?

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Post by qball »

robswc wrote: post #447
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #387

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Due to demonitization some types of videos (especially political, "current affairs", medical, anything (even comedy) using curse words, etc.) almost always get demonetized and many people have stopped such content since it's not worth it. During covid times it was so bad, that even mentioning "covid" in a video got some of them demonetized (even in non-medical context, eg. "shippments from china got delayed due to co…

I honestly think YouTube could have stood up to the advertisers... I also think it was way overblown. Too many people got caught in the crosshairs.

>I honestly think YouTube could have stood up to the advertisers.

No, YouTube was looking for an excuse to clean house. Advertisers have had the tools to stop their ads from appearing per video type for a long time now, so the claim that "it's the advertisers" was obvious misinformation.

>Too many people got caught in the crosshairs.

And yet, YouTube has yet to be dethroned; seems to be working fine for them.

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Post by bagacrap »

voisin wrote: post #446
sammalloy wrote: post #424

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YouTube is almost unwatchable. The show I’m viewing now has an ad every minute or so. I don’t see how they will survive another few years. They’ve literally angered their user base to the point of abandoning the platform.

There’s no alternative (though Tik Tok certainly is doing a decent job of taking all the short content). I think it would be a gangbuster opportunity for Apple to integrate user created content into Apple TV. They don’t need to rely on ad revenue, and similar to Microsoft kneecapping Google with ChatGPT, it would be a great opportunity for Apple to further hurt Google by winning longer form video content and driving…

why is it apple's goal to "hurt Google"?

With MSFT it's obvious that Satya is trying to distract a competitor in cloud, but chatgpt is hardly going to "kneecap" Google. Satya is hyping it with all the credibility of a used car salesman. There's zero evidence that LLMs are going to finally make Microsoft capable of launching a competitive search service.

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Post by kderbyma »

Using YouTube is physically painful. I am pretty sure if I was at risk of heart problems, I would be advised to avoid YouTube. it's UX is fatal. it raise blood pressure almost instantly and it has the feature set of a vaporware product demonstration as far as sort and search is concerned. it's like YouTube decided to make a point of removing all useful search and sort functionality and make sure it was nothing but a glorified vending machine arm serving up 'chances' to find what you are looking for while being bombarded worst than minesweeper on extreme difficulty.
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