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Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Post by xenonite »

r00fus wrote: post #155
ericpauley wrote: post #34

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All phone battery longevities are probably within a factor of 2x (for reputable brands). An iPhone official battery replacement is $100 installed. Is longevity really that material for a component that is 1/8 the price of the phone?

It’s $49 for my iPhone 8 Plus. $69 for a newer phone. Considering it as the health is listed close to 85% now. https://support.apple.com/iphone/repair/battery-replacement

The 'newer' iPhone 8+ probably won't provide a new battery either. So the change is worthwhile, still.

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Post by brnewd »

nomel wrote: post #331
throwaway19294 wrote: post #36

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I do all of the above on my smartphone. I just use the USB-C connector to plug it into a hub and plug in a display, keyboard and mouse. I have OpenVSCode-Server running within Termux, along with Python installed there. Unfortunately iPhone can't do that so who cares about the better Geekbench score...

You should look at nReal Air [1], and skip another 5 years into the future. 1. https://www.nreal.ai/air/

I'm following some nReal topics and to me it still seems like a mixed bag, best suitable for video on a plane. I would jump on it the moment I have enough confidence it can replace my monitors.

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Post by sumek83 »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #10

I guess my question is - why do I care about geekbench? When was the last time someone who doesn't play games on their phone thought "man, I wish this was faster"? Because it's been years for me. The good news I hear is that Samsung is finally improving their battery life. That is a score that I actually care about.

resale value? Maybe this is one of the reasons iPhones have generally higher resale value than Android phones

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Post by MrGilbert »

mardifoufs wrote: post #381
MrGilbert wrote: post #230

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Yes and no. Yes, iPhones get throttled when the battery is on the verge of going ex, but no for this particular device. I run an iPhone X with a new battery from November 2021 (serviced by Apple), with maximum capacity at 90%, and it really is slower compared to the old days. But! I'm not complaining. It's an almost 6 year old device. That means, for every year of usage, I payed roughly 200€, or 16€ per month. That's…

90% is pretty degraded for a battery (if the battery health metrics work the same way as Androids do). By 80% it's usually almost completely unusable, in my experience Though I agree that battery health hasn't been super important to performance. But resetting the phone can do wonders

Not on iOS though. Down to 80%, it still runs with "Peak Performance Capability"

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Post by Sanddy11 »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #10

I guess my question is - why do I care about geekbench? When was the last time someone who doesn't play games on their phone thought "man, I wish this was faster"? Because it's been years for me. The good news I hear is that Samsung is finally improving their battery life. That is a score that I actually care about.

I do. Recently did think exactly that when I was using Pixel 7 Pro. Opening a photo and pressing edit. Loading editor takes ages (relatively speaking). Pressing tools in that editor, takes ages to switch. It is really good editor with a horrible user experience due to all that loading time.

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Post by rakoo »

kaba0 wrote: post #441
rakoo wrote: post #384

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Shopping for a phone with a better battery life out of the box, before you need to change it. I think that's what the GP wanted to say.

Show me any lithium battery-powered device that would last longer. They are all in the same ballpark and this is simply inherent in the way this tech works. Once another battery type surfaces in mobiles this might change, but still then you won’t get any meaningful differences as there is no order of magnitude difference between even the best and worst phones in power consumption and battery capacity.

My featurephone still gets 5 days of use without plugging in.

If you say that the comparison isn't relevant, I'll say yes: the whole point is that the industry has been innovating for computing power and computing power only. Cheaper versions exist to target low price. But no work is done to target long battery life because it's not considered profitable.

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Post by kaba0 »

rakoo wrote: post #456
kaba0 wrote: post #441

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Show me any lithium battery-powered device that would last longer. They are all in the same ballpark and this is simply inherent in the way this tech works. Once another battery type surfaces in mobiles this might change, but still then you won’t get any meaningful differences as there is no order of magnitude difference between even the best and worst phones in power consumption and battery capacity.

My featurephone still gets 5 days of use without plugging in. If you say that the comparison isn't relevant, I'll say yes: the whole point is that the industry has been innovating for computing power and computing power only. Cheaper versions exist to target low price. But no work is done to target long battery life because it's not considered profitable.

Feature phones are not running on general purpose OSs and are not capable of half the things smartphones can do. So there actually is an order of magnitude difference between energy consumption, resulting in longer battery life. But since their functionality is way different than a smartphone’s, it is akin to measuring the fuel efficiency of a horse and a car.

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Post by swah »

mrtksn wrote: post #385
dileepkr wrote: post #232

To all the iphone diehards, I recently switched from Samsung to iphone 14PM and I whole heartedly hate following things: 1. The keyboard in ios: its unintuitive and ancient compared to the android counterparts. And No, Gboard, swiftkey keyboard in ios suck equally bad too. 2. Battery drain issues: Battery drains randomly, main culprit being "find my" process. This alone drains ~8% of battery overnight on my iphone an…

> . Battery drain issues: Battery drains randomly, main culprit being "find my" process. You probably have an AirTag around you, there's a bug causing that. Update the AirTag firmware. > 3. Lack of the back button is a huge pain in the ass Swipe from the left edge of the screen to right, that's the iOS back button.

From what I understood the "back gesture" is not universal - sometimes you still have to use that Back link on the top?

Anyway, I'm returning to Android after 4 months for the same reasons. Lets see how this goes. I haven't found difference in the few apps that I use and since there is universal praise that iOS is smooth, every little hiccup called my attention. So, there are hiccups as well (lags, not responding to touches for half a second, etc)

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Post by rakoo »

kaba0 wrote: post #457
rakoo wrote: post #456

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My featurephone still gets 5 days of use without plugging in. If you say that the comparison isn't relevant, I'll say yes: the whole point is that the industry has been innovating for computing power and computing power only. Cheaper versions exist to target low price. But no work is done to target long battery life because it's not considered profitable.

Feature phones are not running on general purpose OSs and are not capable of half the things smartphones can do. So there actually is an order of magnitude difference between energy consumption, resulting in longer battery life. But since their functionality is way different than a smartphone’s, it is akin to measuring the fuel efficiency of a horse and a car.

Wrong. KaiOS runs on featurephones and has a lot of the features people want from a handheld device: listening to music, messaging, social, even directions. KaiOS has a store where anyone can distribute their own apps.

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Post by mrtksn »

swah wrote: post #458
mrtksn wrote: post #385

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> . Battery drain issues: Battery drains randomly, main culprit being "find my" process. You probably have an AirTag around you, there's a bug causing that. Update the AirTag firmware. > 3. Lack of the back button is a huge pain in the ass Swipe from the left edge of the screen to right, that's the iOS back button.

From what I understood the "back gesture" is not universal - sometimes you still have to use that Back link on the top? Anyway, I'm returning to Android after 4 months for the same reasons. Lets see how this goes. I haven't found difference in the few apps that I use and since there is universal praise that iOS is smooth, every little hiccup called my attention. So, there are hiccups as well (lags, not responding to…

> From what I understood the "back gesture" is not universal - sometimes you still have to use that Back link on the top?

It's actually universal when the App is built with the native UI components and it's part of Apple's App design guidelines. It doesn't work when the App is built with UI frameworks that don't adhere to this design convention. Sometimes even if the framework by default supports this, the devs can break it in an attempt to be creative but when it doesn't work, it means poor App design.

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