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I am definitely interested in giving Arc a try after reading about it in different parts of the interwebz. However, I haven't received an invite despite being on the list for close to a month.
I can send you one if you email me at canolcer@hey.com
Tell HN: Firefox Is an awesome browser right now
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#453Firefox on Mobile supports uBlock origin, and is very nice as well. edit: on Android
Update: Just tried it in Orion. I could install the extension but it seems to be broken. This is what I remember reading though:
## Wait, are you saying I can run uBlock Origin and other Chrome/Firefox extensions in Orion?!
Yes, Orion makes it possible!
## Wait, are you sure? No browser on iOS can use Chrome/Firefox extensions!
Orion makes it possible!
https://web.archive.org/web/20220329163943im_/https://browse...
Re: Tell HN: Firefox Is an awesome browser right now
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"objectively better performance" What are yon talking about? How many people browse the web on an i9 13900K with 32GB RAM? Try a 5 year old laptop with 4GB RAM and you'll see a completely different picture - Firefox is far better at managing limited memory. Also on Android (probably on iPhones as well) Chrome doesn't allow installation of ad-blockers - making it 10x slower than FF with uBlock Origin.
>Chrome doesn't allow installation of ad-blockers That is not accurate. The Android version of Chrome does not support web extensions at all. It's not like Google has a switch somewhere that they can flip and make web extententions work. Supporting web extensions on Android would be a brand new feature and would need significant development time. Not even Firefox properly supports web extensions on Android. They trie…
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#456Oh Firefox, the best of the worst browsers, as there are no new and exciting browsers any more. Added new unremovable extensions button, video conferencing support is still flaky, but I use it daily, no matter what. Maybe one day Andreas Kling's browser Ladybird will replace it...
Vivaldi isn't perfect. It takes a lot of searching around the internet to find out how to enable or disable certain options (and there are a lot of them), but right now I consider it the best of the worst for 2023. It's the most customizable, and the browser sync feature works pretty well.
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#457I just switched back to chrome for the same reason. Every page in Firefox was taking 60+second to load. Tried it on chrome and pages were loading instantly. I had originally switched to Firefox for privacy concerns but that and the memory usage/occasional crashing were too much for me. edit: not sure what the downvotes are for. I'm glad there's a second option out there. It didn't work for me but figured it was worth…
Occasionally, the first page takes 30+ second to load. I am on Lubuntu 20.04 and only have ublock extension active. Usually to "fix it" (bringing time to below 10s), Hamburger Menu -> Help -> More troubleshooting information -> Clear Startup Cache. Also making sure my dns/network is up by pinging successfully a external website before launching Firefox. But sooner or later startup time will creep-up again. I'm not qu…
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By coincidence, just this morning I had a panic because I tried to close FF by closing the only window (which is something I need to do periodically because memory usage will build up over time), and I thought I had lost the tabs because when I opened it back up, they were gone with no way to restore. Apparently the behavior had changed so that closing the last window no longer closes FF, but just that window a la Sk…
Firefox normal collection, automatic or triggered in about:memory, will reduce memory used by Firefox about the same as restarting firefox. The latter only SEEMS to reduce usage because it also unloads all tabs which are only reloaded when accessed. If you want to prove that to yourself compare a restart preserving tabs and manually trigger tab unloading in about:unloads If you are dealing with normal amounts of memo…
Obviously not, since the memory usage is increasing without bound despite no corresponding increase in memory-intensive tabs. Thanks for suggesting an alternate workaround for the collection failures though.
>If you are dealing with normal amounts of memory usage and you have less than 16GB you may consider upgrading RAM considering this is as little as $40-60 at this point and well worth the look.
I have 32 GB, which it (thankfully) hasn't come close to, but would, if I weren't periodically restarting. Kinda funny how we automatically don't expect 16 GB to be enough memory for text/image web pages though.
>The check before closing multiple tabs didn't get turned off somehow the default changed in 2021 to default unchecked.
Makes sense, I think it was a while since I was shocked to see that behavior.
>Lastly the behavior regarding closing the last window closing Firefox remains unchanged. It does in fact still work that way. If it didn't properly close I would suggest that is a bug or a second window on another workspace.
No other workspaces, so probably a bug. I found this report of something very similar, though on Mac rather than Windows:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1772056
>If all you desire is to restart as opposed to actually closing firefox you can trigger a restart in about:profiles this has the benefit of working no matter how many windows you have open.
Thanks, but I'd prefer the option that can be done with a few quick key commands, and Firefox isn't customizable in that way anymore.
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#459Firefox on Mobile supports uBlock origin, and is very nice as well. edit: on Android
Wonder what’s preventing this on iOS. iirc Orion manages to do it. Update: Just tried it in Orion. I could install the extension but it seems to be broken. This is what I remember reading though: ## Wait, are you saying I can run uBlock Origin and other Chrome/Firefox extensions in Orion?! Yes, Orion makes it possible! ## Wait, are you sure? No browser on iOS can use Chrome/Firefox extensions! Orion makes it possible…
Apple policy is preventing Mozilla/Gecko from being built/distributed for the app store.
It's so notorious that there has been legislation considered to address that practice: https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/26/apple_ios_browser/
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#460Earlier quoted context omitted.
"objectively better performance" What are yon talking about? How many people browse the web on an i9 13900K with 32GB RAM? Try a 5 year old laptop with 4GB RAM and you'll see a completely different picture - Firefox is far better at managing limited memory. Also on Android (probably on iPhones as well) Chrome doesn't allow installation of ad-blockers - making it 10x slower than FF with uBlock Origin.
>Chrome doesn't allow installation of ad-blockers That is not accurate. The Android version of Chrome does not support web extensions at all. It's not like Google has a switch somewhere that they can flip and make web extententions work. Supporting web extensions on Android would be a brand new feature and would need significant development time. Not even Firefox properly supports web extensions on Android. They trie…
Kiwi Browser, a Chromium fork for Android with a small development team manages to have extensions, and successfully runs almost all extensions for desktop Chrome.
Google doesn't have extensions in Android Chrome because it doesn't want them. I'm not surprised; many popular extensions make Google's business model less profitable. Firefox also significantly crippled extensions in its Android version, and I'm more puzzled as to their motivations.