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Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by maxbond »

electrondood wrote: post #391
neilv wrote: post #188

> Prohibited platforms: > Facebook, Instagram, Mastodon, Truth Social, Tribel, Post and Nostr > 3rd-party social media link aggregators such as linktr.ee, lnk.bio Missing from this list are things that are not direct competitors, but where creators have monetized brands that they're motivated to promote on Twitter, including: YouTube, OnlyFans. I suspect that promoting blog articles on Medium and Substack is still OK…

> I suspect that promoting blog articles on Medium and Substack is still OK. Putting aside the inconsistency/hypocrisy for a minute, I wonder how long that will last after they add long-form tweets.

My guess is that they reverse course on this policy in 1-3 weeks. But my track record in this matter isn't great: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33466363 (tldr I predicted Twitter wouldn't change very much)

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by HD103720b »

choult wrote: post #19

"Thin-skinned narcissist buys criticism machine." This is not "free speech absolutism" in the slightest. It's not even business-savvy. Elon's mask has truly cracked, and he proves he is nothing but a febrile mind who has bought into his own hype.

so ignore he's taken those steps because a elon tracking account potentially endangered his 2 year old son?

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by jacquesm »

CatWChainsaw wrote: post #411
jacquesm wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plenty of idiots still following Putin and carrying water for him.

Putin's enemies are statistically more likely to jump out of hotel rooms on higher floors than Musk's.

I can't wait until they return the favor.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by freejazz »

tlogan wrote: post #117
ClumsyPilot wrote: post #36

Ah damn, I hoped for a fair experiment to demonstrate absordity of total free speech, but istead we got bog standard hypocracy! Boo! If you are caught wondering why some people still support Elon - in 'true conservative' society, like Russia or Saudi states, hypocracy is means of demonstrating hierarchy. So as a leader, you show that you are dominant by demonstrating that rules don't apply to you. That makes you even…

I genuinely believed that he would try to allow more free speech on Twitter. There was a small chance that the experiment will succeed. I guess he never wanted that: he just lied. But why?

Because you would have never supported him if he told the truth.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by nothrowaways »

qayxc wrote: post #178
EastSmith wrote: post #152

Not agreeing with the policy, but is there any reason TikTok is omitted?

China? Tesla has a huge market over there and Musk doesn't want to anger the CCP perhaps.

To add to the twist, rumor has it that Elon is a Chinese genetic hybrid.

https://news.yahoo.com/elon-musk-responds-kanye-west-1111164...

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by wpietri »

snowwrestler wrote: post #171
troydavis wrote: post #49

(from another thread) Any attorneys want to weigh in on whether - or when - this becomes an anti-competitive/anti-trust concern, either in the US (FTC) or the EU? Related reading: * Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU) Article 102, on abusive conduct by companies that have a dominant position in a market: https://competition-policy.ec.europa.eu/antitrust/procedures... . Any EU resident can file a co…

I don’t see how this is a legal problem for Twitter, at least in the U.S. They are not a dominant force on the Web or even in social media; they have little market power. And any data that shows lots of people leaving for other social media platforms would actually help prove that competition is strong (ironically). Free speech cuts both ways. It’s legal for Twitter to block links to Mastodon for the same reason it w…

Yes and no. Twitter is dominant for their slice of social media, as demonstrated by the fact that a lot of the people who think about leaving don't see viable alternatives. But I agree that US anti-trust law is so hands off at this point that there's no chance the FTC would do anything substantive here.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by electrondood »

"Free speech!"

restores users banned for violating the TOS

Advertisers flee.

"Oh shit."

"turns out we had the TOS for a reason"

discovers that Apple has their own TOS, and 40% of users are on iOS

declares war on Apple

meets Tim Cook, looks at pond

"ok guys, no war"

bans journalists

public outcry

adds rule against "doxxing" to TOS

immediately violates own rule by posting license plate and asking 100m followers to identify person

EU stares in regulation

holds sham poll to reinstate journalists

users flee to competitors

bans links to competitors, but not rightwing platforms

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by tedunangst »

TigeriusKirk wrote: post #144
troydavis wrote: post #49

(from another thread) Any attorneys want to weigh in on whether - or when - this becomes an anti-competitive/anti-trust concern, either in the US (FTC) or the EU? Related reading: * Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU) Article 102, on abusive conduct by companies that have a dominant position in a market: https://competition-policy.ec.europa.eu/antitrust/procedures... . Any EU resident can file a co…

I suspect this would factor heavily into any such concern- "Additionally, we allow paid advertisement/promotion for any of the prohibited social media platforms."

Except that's not true.

> They said they allow you to pay to promote links to other platform, but considering how it was immediately reject from promotion it seems that automation is being used to make that line a... uhhh... total lie.

https://twitter.com/Chronotope/status/1604538254795198465

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by admax88qqq »

Yoric wrote: post #218
tlogan wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I genuinely believed that he would try to allow more free speech on Twitter. There was a small chance that the experiment will succeed. I guess he never wanted that: he just lied. But why?

I've been wondering whether he's planning to run for some office (in South Africa? US?). At least, that would make his burning through $44Bn, lying so much and voluntarily antagonizing/ostracizing "the Libs" somewhat logical. edit: Alright, here is my latest idle theory: he wants (or wanted at some point) to become a news mogul and a US Republican kingmaker. And since Twitter is (for many people) the news: 1. buying…

I don't think there's any 4D chess going on here with Twitter.

He signed the deal when the market was way up. He was probably riding high and overconfident on his wealth. The market corrected, his wealth dropped and he tried damn hard to get out of the deal. Turns out the deal was hard to get out of so he's trying to make the best of it.

I think he's earnestly trying to make Twitter successful and profitable. This is just his best effort.

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