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Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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Post by dahfizz »

galangalalgol wrote: post #317
robswc wrote: post #278

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As someone that's never been a victim of theft, that's wild and I feel like it would just ruin things for quite awhile. I had what I assume was a drunk person, try to get into my apartment once. Not something that should be too scary but I felt uneasy for some time after that. I'd be out wiring the house like ft. knox the next day, if that happened to me haha.

Without doxing yourself can you give a general idea where this place is? Do you know lots of people that have experienced theft and you are just lucky, or is it unusual? I don't think I even know anyone who hasn't had packages stolen or a car broken into or stuff taken from their yard at least. One guy where I used to live went in to get some water while mowing his front yard and came back as people drove away with h…

Ive loved in suburban New England all my life, and I don't know anyone who experienced theft or any sort of violent crime. I leave my door unlocked.

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Post by taeric »

lazyasciiart wrote: post #417
taeric wrote: post #333

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As a male, I've done the same in Atlanta and in Seattle. In Atlanta, was so late coming home that the transit was closed and I walked 7ish miles to get home. Through downtown. I still don't claim it is a safer city than Seattle. Not by a long shot. Just as I don't recommend walking downtown Seattle super late. Though, of course, have done so many times. Similarly, we never had package theft in Seattle. I don't know h…

I'm a woman, and I walk through downtown Seattle super late. It's not actually a black hole of murder, even after midnight.

Fair. I still wouldn't recommend it for a lot of places. Doesn't mean I find the place dangerous. Just norms of safety are relative.

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Post by threatofrain »

systemvoltage wrote: post #413
novok wrote: post #372

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It's an american disease, maybe even californian. Go to many other cities in the rest of the world and they have denser, better cities with none of the literal shit. IMO I would barely call most of the bay a city, just a semi-dense suburb for the most part beyond a few pockets.

There are very specific criminal justice reform and soft-on-crime policies that lead to this. If you go to Tokyo, you'll be put in jail for doing drugs. Most likely extremely tough prison sentence of a decade or more. It prevents people from doing drugs and getting trapped in the spiraling destruction of self. Here in America, we have NYC and SF opening clinics to comfortably allow people to shoot heroine in the comf…

There’s a famous Bay Area town with no police dept, sizable population, somewhat wealthy, very low murder rate, amazing schools and no homelessness, and neither democrats or republicans have any meaning in local town politics. The nearby towns are similar. I wonder if it's possible to buy this in any other part of the country.

Things are easier when you have a good start.

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Post by tptacek »

rdtwo wrote: post #346
quickthrower2 wrote: post #295

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Strange that police would ignore a burglary. I get they might ignore a bike stolen from the street. A burglary could easily be a home invasion.

They ignore everything sort of violent crime and easy arrests. In Chicago they even ignore violent crime.

That is not remotely my experience. Someone made a similar comment a few weeks ago and related an experience where their car was stolen and the police refused to initiate a pursuit, which lead to a whole thread about whether it was some kind of new woke policing not to do high speed chases in dense urban areas (spoiler: no). I am more concerned about CPD going nuts if I call them than I am about them blowing me off.

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Post by recursive »

loeg wrote: post #70
barbariangrunge wrote: post #37

What is the rate for other big cities? Is this a lot higher than usual, or only a little higher? The thing is that people steal things everywhere. Bikes. Cigarette lighters. Money left out. Scam items off Amazon or eBay is a form of theft. Your beer at parties. Lawn gnomes. I don’t know many people anywhere who haven’t had something stolen from them at some point, so I’m not sure what this is saying

I don’t think I’ve had any theft incidents in many years in Seattle.

I visited Seattle for 9 days, and had my car smashed. There was nothing even in it.

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Post by tptacek »

perardi wrote: post #269
crazygringo wrote: post #59

I mean if a single package being stolen from your porch counts, then I'm surprised it isn't higher over five years . And porch pirates abound in suburbia too. The actual scary thefts are home breakins and muggings. I feel like the headline wants you to think it's those, when it's mostly stolen packages or something.

So here is the proper source of the pool, with the actual question asked. https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/sfnext-poll-crime-sfp... Responses to the question "During the last five years, was any item you owned ever stolen from you, or did that not happen during that time?" Note that it does not specify that you reported a theft . Note that it does not ask any real context about what was stolen and how. If I was…

Most of my friends in Chicago had experienced thefts... in the mid-1990s. It's part of living in a big city, and of parking your car on the street or locking a bike up outside a business.

These years, I think you'd have a hard time finding many houses where I live in Chicagoland that haven't had a package theft. And, like, I don't like that package theft is a nearly risk-free crime? But it's very low on my list of public policy priorities.

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Post by bobkazamakis »

jshzglr wrote: post #378
chaboud wrote: post #351

I had a car broken into this last weekend. They broke into every rental car in the lot (by the ferry building). A police officer was rolling through, telling people not to leave anything visible in their cars (nothing was visible in mine). I asked him if I could file a report, and he told me I would have to go to the station. He told me he wasn't sticking around and refused to take a report. I had a similar experienc…

You can replace the police force, nothing will change. When cops feel unwanted and disrespected they act accordingly. There's a reason we have a history of unwarranted respect for cops and military members. It's not because they always deserve it, but because you want them to feel like they do.

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Post by Scoundreller »

heavyset_go wrote: post #361
pclmulqdq wrote: post #275

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I'm guessing that if a rich, white or Asian tech worker decided to loot a Walgreens, they would get the book thrown at them. Look at the small business owners in New York who get arrested and charged with everything possible by the DA's office for defending themselves (until public pressure forces them to back down). That's where we are. This is what the people voted for, though.

Why would they loot a Walgreens when they could loot the payroll? Wage theft is the most common form of theft[1] in the country and it's almost completely unenforced. [1] https://www.epi.org/publication/wage-theft-bigger-problem-fo...

> Wage Theft is a Much Bigger Problem Than Other Forms of Theft—But Workers Remain Mostly Unprotected

> wage-theft-bigger-problem-forms-theft-workers/

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Post by dymk »

testfrequency wrote: post #40
dymk wrote: post #13

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That places better than SF exist and people are moving to them.

Why is everything “better” or “worse”. City vs. City. This is such a lame argument and only feeds whoever is seeking validation that they live in right place

What argument? You seem to be the only one here looking to pick some pointless fight.
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