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Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by nathan_f77 »

I might give it another go. I tried switching from Evernote a while ago but was a bit underwhelmed. I don't really see the value of bidirectional links yet, the search feature in Evernote has been working fine for me. But will try it out again, and maybe give it a week this time.

EDIT: The Sync feature is far too expensive. I pay about $22/year for Evernote: https://evernote.com/compare-plans Syncing is a core feature, and I'm not going to use any notetaking tool if it can't sync my notes between mobile and desktop. I don't really want to switch to a tool that will cost $96/year. I'd be comfortable paying up to $25/year.

Even better if there was a self-hosted database that I could run on my own server, or a way sync via Dropbox or Google Drive (that also works on mobile.) Maybe iCloud is an option.

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by saltymimir »

Congrats! Been using the insider builds, so I've used the overhauled UI for quite a while. What I've been waiting for is the mobile app, and as expected you folks delivered. Hands down the best note-taking experience in mobile platforms, and it's not even close.

I'm still using Logseq as my PKMS app by default, but seeing how active you've been with pushing genuinely new (and useful) changes, I might just reconsider this.

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by soulofmischief »

theGnuMe wrote: post #382
soulofmischief wrote: post #367

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I loved Obsidian to death, but felt a bit of friction. As nice as it was, I wasn't getting sucked in and resorted to writing my own bespoke bash program for organized note-taking. Enter Logseq, and after a 20 minute learning curve, ideas just fly off of my fingertips. I reach for it daily. Can't recommend Logseq enough.

>resorted to writing my own bespoke bash program for organized note-taking. what? why... also emacs is really good for reproducible terminal logging of experiments/commands/output.

Build tools around workflows, not workflows around tools https://thesephist.com/posts/tools/

org mode has been too time-consuming in the past to adapt into my workflow. Logseq is a fantastic compromise.

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by soulofmischief »

danial wrote: post #411
soulofmischief wrote: post #367

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I loved Obsidian to death, but felt a bit of friction. As nice as it was, I wasn't getting sucked in and resorted to writing my own bespoke bash program for organized note-taking. Enter Logseq, and after a 20 minute learning curve, ideas just fly off of my fingertips. I reach for it daily. Can't recommend Logseq enough.

I definitely also like logseq better, but find that it doesn't sync well between desktop and iOS app. Have you found good solution for this?

None, because I'm still waiting on an Android app... :(

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by soulofmischief »

dfgsdfgwef wrote: post #381
soulofmischief wrote: post #367

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I loved Obsidian to death, but felt a bit of friction. As nice as it was, I wasn't getting sucked in and resorted to writing my own bespoke bash program for organized note-taking. Enter Logseq, and after a 20 minute learning curve, ideas just fly off of my fingertips. I reach for it daily. Can't recommend Logseq enough.

Same experience here. I was die hard fan of obsidian till I used Logseq. Obsidian doesn't have proper outlining as they have another commercial app called Dynalist. They probably don't want competition between their own products. Lack of folders in logseq is a feature. It force the user to follow zettelcasten style which results in serendipitous encounters with older notes.

Completely agree.

While waiting for Logseq to come to Android, I've been using Zettel Notes by Dev Rohit. It's been great so far!

Re: Obsidian 1.0 – Personal knowledge base app

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Post by phforms »

kepano wrote: post #409
mikae1 wrote: post #341

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Did you try https://logseq.com/ ? I've had not reason to pick freemium Obsidian over open source Logseq.

The biggest fundamental difference is that Logseq is an outliner whereas Obsidian is more flexible to any kind of text you throw at it. So if I am trying to write prose it feels constraining for everything to be a bullet. That said Obsidian and Logseq are interoperable since they both run on a local folder of plain text files. Meaning you can switch over to Logseq for your outlining needs and use Obsidian for everyth…

I always feel like the term “outliner” misrepresents the approach to note-taking that tools like Logseq, (Org-)Roam, RemNote, etc. have chosen. I don’t really have/know a good alternative label, but there is so much more to it than just “outlining” your thoughts in a list of bullet points.

Often when I write down my thoughts this way, it is more like following associative threads. I focus on a particular thought and relate something to it, which now becomes my new focus. Then I defocus and focus on something completely different. Kind-of like these threads here on HN. I wouldn’t call this outlining, it is more like spawning local contexts, nested textual environments to think in.

This is something that I miss the most when working with linear text structures as in Obsidian. I know you can indent and fold indentations in/out, but for me it doesn’t feel natural the way it does in notebook apps that organize text in block-trees. I also cannot reorganize or reference those indentations easily. I feel liberated (in thinking) with those bullets rather than constrained, but of course it is a matter of personal preference and habits.

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